Wow, I’m kinda surprised that “no” is the minority opinion to dropping the mask mandates considering that children under 17 haven’t yet been vaccinated yet. Wtf?
US propaganda was likely doing outreach on masks following the 1957 flu pandemic.
The question is open enough that one could certainly consider 15 yos who want the vaccine as part of “everyone” and that everyone getting one who wants one isn’t satisfied until it includes kids. But, I think it lacks granularity.
As for me, I’d like to see more data from challenge trials where vaccinated people volunteer to get exposed so we can see what kind of innoculum it would take for vaccinated people to get sick. If, like, the average vaccinated person wouldn’t develop symptoms after hanging out in a closed room with a contagious person for an hour, yeah, lift them, probably. Otherwise I think we want to continue to knock down case loads. It’s imperative that we continue to knock down case loads so as to prevent the emergence of novel variants.
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The question is open enough that one could certainly consider 15 yos who want the vaccine as part of “everyone” and that everyone getting one who wants one isn’t satisfied until it includes kids.
The guy who started the discussion specifically mentioned June 1st, but certainly possible people taking the poll interpreted it differently.
The problem with removing mask mandates is that it provides cover for non vaccinated to stop wearing masks, which will increase spread among children.
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Don’t get the yes votes here, it seems pretty obvious to me that mask/not mask should be dependent on # of active cases in your state and not factor in the vaccine at all, right?
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I’m hoping the universal outdoor mask mandate ends by the time the weather gets hot. Will feel ok being unmasked in most outdoor situations once vaxxed.
Indoors, think we need mandates through either kids getting vaccinated or case counts about 95-100 percent lower. So I would likely support them well into 2022 at the earliest.
Not sure they ever need to be lifted for mass transit.
Don’t know is the only reasonable answer, no?
I have no desire to ever go to an in person movie theatre or sporting event again.
No. As long there are high cases the potential for worse variants to arise continues. I don’t want the fake vaxxers to have a leg up going maskless. I’ll probably be more willing to go out in public and may occasionally eat indoors strategically. But there will be no YOLO.
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Restaurant?
Walking around in LA most people are masked or have them at the ready. If they pull theirs up, I’ll pull mine up. Often neither of us do.
The problem is masks and sunglasses don’t play nice at all for anything other than a few seconds while passing someone. I have to at least dicknose it or my glasses fog up.
It’s funny walking through a sidewalk full of maskless diners on both sides and being the only one masked up other than the waiters and busboys. But I do it.
I ref outdoor youth soccer games where masks are required state wide for sanctioned games. Compliance is about 90% before I nag them, 100% after.
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Wait, does this mean no more Disney World?
No, but I’d wear a mask at Disney World. And certainly not anytime soon.
Ever going to a mall or brick and mortar store again (non grocery division)
Movie theater I could probably live without if it didn’t involve subscribing to 7 different streaming services. Movies are expensive, yes, but I feel like I’d rather pay $40 for a night at the movies with my wife than $30 for a subscription that I forgot to cancel right away, you know?
I definitely want to go to in person sports again. I’ve absolutely loved going to Stanford and (much less often) Seahawks football games. An absolute blast yelling with and high fiving and chest bumping random people.
Yeah, me not going to movies or sporting events anymore is mostly down to being able to enjoy them on a large screen tv and not caring about the in-person experience. Honestly I hardly went to in-person movies anymore before the pandemic.
Most of my moviegoing would be for the major action blockbusters that justify the big screen and sound, and they were or would be infrequent enough both that an occasional $40 night out was not a big deal and that subscribing and unsubscribing to get them at home at an appropriate cost would be a decent hassle. But I favor the bourgie theaters where you can reserve a big reclining seat and get a beer.
Pfizer 2nd shot trip report:
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Friday evening went back to Ohio State’s St. John Arena, which is where the first shot was adminstered over a several day period. Theoretically, everyone who got the first shot last time at St. John should have been there with us Friday, as 2nd shots were auto-scheduled for same weekday, same time. But that obviously didn’t happen - we waited for an hour or so for the first shot, and walked right in for the second shot. I suppose there’s an outside chance that the lines were faster because there wasn’t as much registration, but I don’t think that’s right. I think a bunch of people, for whatever reason, didn’t show up for their 2nd shots.
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I got my first shot in the right arm and I strategically chose to get my second shot in the left arm , intentionally balancing out my vaccination range. Mrs. spidercrab got hers in the same arm, so I bragged about my strategy and told her she was going to be lopsided.
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Sore left arm that night, but generally felt fine. Took a couple of preventative ibuprofen and drank a beer.
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Woke up feeling a little groggy, but nothing major. Left arm really hurt and I couldn’t raise it above my shoulder. (Similar to the first shot.) Over the next few hours, my feelings went from “I feel fine and will probably go running later” to “I feel ok-ish, but probably won’t run” to “I need to go to bed”. (That was around 20 hours after the shot.) We had a bunch of kid activities to take care of, but after I got home around 2pm, I fell asleep for ~2 hours. Felt ok after that, especially after showering.
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Woke up this morning feeling fine. Worked out with no problem.
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Mrs. spidercrab experienced no notable side effects and is obviously crediting the hydration strategy.
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Both she and I are pretty sick of Gatorade.
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Good thing you hydrated, but chances are that you were never going to get as much benefit from the hydration as Mrs. spidercrab. Placebo effect works the best when you actually believe in whatever snake oil you’re using.
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