COVID-19: Chapter 7 - Brags, Beats, and Variants

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Im not sure we get to herd immunity ever, but I really dont think it is going to be possible in 2021. Just the combination of 1/4-1/3 of adults turning down the vaccine+no vaccine for kids is enough to prevent herd immunity. Some of that depends on how long natural immunity lasts/how long until we need boosters, but I think we are drawing really thin to get there this year.

I do think most of us can get back (mostly) to normal without herd immunity given the vaccine results. High risk people who cant get vaccinated are sort of perma fucked though.

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lol at that stat. Weā€™re talking 7% pozzed in MI vs 10% pozzed in FL. Yes, ā€œ30% more per capita casesā€ is true. And itā€™s negligible af.

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Depends on how many non-diagnosed cases there are. If thereā€™s two non-diagnosed cases for every diagnosed case then it starts to be significant.

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Flu has also been close to non existent here in UK where schools have been mostly open since last March.

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See Manuas and Czechia where reinfections are being experienced

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Job one is anyone with respiratory systems stays home or masks up.

Iā€™m unsure of indoor ventilation improvements make a big difference for flu or not.

And of course nature will then take advantage of our lesser challenge immune systems eventually and kill us all.

Remember, Iā€™m a microbiologist. I sometimes like to look things from the other side. Basically we are the infection and microbial diseases are just another tool of the planet to keep us in check.

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8273

OK THANOS

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8274

I skimmed an article that suggests the flu is going to come back with a vengeance next year.

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Yeah because weā€™ll have no idea which vaccines to give, because normally you base it on what flus are circulating in the other hemisphere, so itā€™s gonna suck.

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https://twitter.com/DrewTumaABC7/status/1375152155070373891?s=20

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8277

florida will be April 5th.

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Everyone must have just gotten off the same call. CT just announced that they upped their release date of age 16+ to April 1st.

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8279

fuck you inslee, liberate teh doses in WA!

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First shot done (Biontech/Pfizer). Yay. :slight_smile:

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Seriously I didnā€™t feel anything after first shot but second shot hit me a bit.

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The numbers are crazy.

Still think about the months of people saying itā€™s just like the flu.

Between Oct. 1 and Jan. 30, only 155 people in the United StatesTrusted Source have been hospitalized with the flu.

Thatā€™s a 98 percent decrease from the same window of timeTrusted Source in the 2019-2020 flu season in which 8,633 people were hospitalized with the flu.

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Man if I fade the COVID and get killed by the flu Iā€™m going to be pissed.

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I think thereā€™s a lot of variance in any predictions, but certainly the potential for unusually bad flu seasons. Best I could tell from a few articles then issues are a loss of natural immunity because of few infections this year, and, as Jman said, very few samples on which to base vaccine composition.

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Yeah completely agree with both of those changes being doable and ventilation improvements are a very good point. I just donā€™t know if that is a ten percent reduction cs normal flu or a fifty percent reduction vs normal flu because things like remote school and no indoor dining probably not long-term solutions.

I would think we are likely to have a couple of bad flu seasons once we fully reopen, so hopefully some of these cultural changes stick.

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Close.

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