Well this is a depressing headline.
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Merry Fmas update. Power back on. Nice outing to fancy gardens with holiday decorations/light shows and a very chilly outdoor meal. Masks required 100% aside from eating but tables pretty spaced and outside.
Is it 2021 yet?
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So at 100,000 vaccines a day, we will be done in 10 years. So much for 20 million by the end of December.
Unfortunately with zero federal competence the vaccine roll out was always going to be a disaster.
I had no idea this was a thing, much less a thing that needed to be fact checked.
https://twitter.com/PolitiFact/status/1342632217445597186?s=19
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While the coronavirus pandemic continued to surge throughout the summer and fall, federal government officials repeatedly offered a ray of hope: enough vaccine doses to vaccinate 20 million Americans by the end of December.
But after the first week of vaccine distribution and with only nine days left to meet their self-imposed deadline, Operation Warp Speed is on track to fall well short of 20 million shots in arms. One count, from the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, shows about 9.5 million doses have been distributed as of Wednesday morning and just over a million people have been vaccinated ā not even close to the 20 million goal Warp Speed originally set.
I mean unless they get the National Guard to distribute the vaccine, how will this take less than a year or 2? You can only get a flu shot from like 8 AM to 8 PM. This needs to be a 24/7 operation, not relying on pharmacists to do all this.
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Capitalism is the best tho.
One of the wifeās and Iās nurse friends was vaccinated about 10 days ago has just popped a positive for covid and is experiencing moderate symptoms. She is a lib and science/vax believer so I have no reason to doubt it. Itās possible she was already infected or was infected shortly after getting it but she does not sound like she is doing well. She is in her 30s and otherwise healthy. We probably need to pump the breaks on the vaccines being 100% proven to prevent severe covid when the actual trial results have such a small sample size of pozzed people (at least last I saw).
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You arenāt immune to covid for 5 weeks after your first vaccine dose (1 week after 2nd)
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The vaccine cannot give you covid
So what does this person pozzing 1 week after the first dose have to do with anything?
Well these are 100% the only 2 optionsā¦either she was already infected or got infected shortly after since she has covid now. Given the shot contains no covid and canāt give it to you, there is no other option yet you make it sound like itās possible the vaccine gave it to her.
Iām not implying the vaccine can give you covid obviously.
Well then what exactly are you implying? Thatās what your post reads as, so itās not obvious at all.
I have a friend 10 days post-vax trending towards severe Covid. It was posted here in the last couple days that one of the vaxes (i think Moderna) protected 100% against severe covid. Now maybe that means after both doses. Maybe her case never ends up severe. But the clinical trial results I have seen are based on literally only dozens of positives so Iām not sure how we would know that.
My post literally says that and says nothing about the vaccine giving her covid. Itās also anecdotal but I figured useful because we have had people asking how effective dose 1 was and the like.
I mean my comment about her being a lib was meant to point out she wasnāt making some anti-vax or vaccine gave me covid point.
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When you say this, that is implying she could have gotten it from the shot.
Otherwise you would just say āI know she was already infected or was shortly afterā instead of āitās possibleā
But whatever. The vaccine isnāt going to prevent severe covid after 10 days. Sheās had it for at least 5 to test positive. She didnāt make all the antibodies to fight it off in the first 5 days, which is why she could get it in the first place.
95%ish of the time someone 1+ week after the second dose of the shot should not get covid. In that 5%, we believe itāll be less severe as they are fighting it from the start, reducing viral load.
Sure you can say since very few got pozz during the test that itās possible the 5% who get it may get severe cases.
But an anecdote about one person 4 weeks before the known effective time for her vaccination means literally NOTHING as far as how effective the vaccine will be 1 week after the second dose.
Nothing
My point of saying this was to say she wasnāt infected well after getting vaccinated as in most likely not 3 days ago or something based on the timeline. I was pointing out she was pozzed right around the time of getting it not that it gave it to her. Come the fuck on with this dumb shit.
If itās before 5 weeks then it means nothing.
Itās been 10 whole days.
This is just noise that adds to the fog around the vaccination.
To be clear:
- It takes 5 weeks to have 95% immunity
- No anecdotes before that time mean anything
- Even if the 5% can still get normal/severe covid, the point of the vaccine is for herd immunity. That 5% that donāt respond enough to the vaccine wonāt get covid in the first place if there is nobody around them to give it them because of herd immunity.
People have been asking over and over about dose 1 effectiveness in this thread. Both whether it would stop you from getting it or help prevent a severe case. Iām not trying to prove anything negative about the vaccine. I am a huge proponent of these vaccines.
I was just trying to point out I know at least 1 person pozzed post-vaccination and they do not have a mild case. Yes I realize everything you are saying about the effectiveness before dose 2.
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