Tell her to buy lots of life insurance with you as beneficiary before they leave. That should get your point across.
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Even my Pelosi hating brother is at least sensible. Thinks the rioters are crazy and takes covid seriously.
Grateful that all immediate family are covid sane. Now there are some aunts uncles and cousinsâŚ
I know how you feel. One thing that has helped me is stopping telling people how to live their lives unless they explicitly ask for advice. Try not and get angry at the stupidity at this point. If you are like me you have spoken out loud and clear for months on this to everyone you know. You have done what you can. If they havenât listened by now they arenât going to listen. The goal now should be to salvage your own mental health in this situation.
We have friends and family going to Disney World and Hawaii and ski trips and on and on and on. It especially feels disrespectful to my wife who gets to load the bodies into body bags day after day after day from this behavior. I want to yell and them and tell them how stupid they are. But I donât think it is productive for anyone and it damages the relationships with the people you want to stay safe.
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Cuomo taking up trumps shtick now that heâs banned from twitter
https://twitter.com/nygovcuomo/status/1348673192609591296?s=21
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Iâm going to preface this by saying I have been absolutely brutal to people (mostly early in the pandemic) going as far as to tell several people in my family that they were killing people with their behavior and I didnât respect them anymore. So I totally understand your frustration with people not seeming to care about themselves or others and how disgusting that is and the desire to lash out and make the people around me think it is as serious as I do.
You know what the end result of all my railing against unsafe behavior was? Nothing positive basically. Literally no one changed their behavior. It just made them preface every conversation with excuses on why it is ok what they are doing. We canât make the people around us do the right thing. Literally no amount of convincing them will likely change their behavior.
I say all that to say you have to do what is right for Johnny. Period. I have continued to stay home and mostly isolate because I think that is the right thing to do. That is something you can be very proud of when this is all over. You didnât kill anyone like most of the other dipshits in our lives. Does it make me angry to see others acting selfishly and immorally? Or not taking basic precautions? Of course. But they donât see this the same way as you and never will. So you need to do what you can to make yourself ok until this is over. Maybe that means stay away from them. Maybe that means accept the flaws that they have and do whatever you can to keep yourself and your family safe while still maintaining physical contact with them. It sure doesnât mean spending a lot of mental energy being angry or distraught over their behavior. That doesnât do any good for you.
While I have felt increasingly isolated I have also had some relationships get better in the last year. I have a running group chat with a couple friends where we send funny memes and talk shit pretty much every day. Are they behaving perfectly? No. One is literally going to Disney World in two weeks. When he told me he prefaced it with âI am telling you this now so you can start judging me in advanceâ. I proceeded to say nothing about it. I mean whatâs the point? He knows it is dumb obviously. It isnât like anything I say will stop him. All I can do is damage that relationship and make us both angry at each other. Thatâs one example of many where keeping my mouth shut is actually beneficial to me in the longer run.
The bottom line is in normal times we accept all kinds of borderline behavior from friends and family. We arenât all the same and we donât all have the same worldview or morality. As a result it isnât shocking that everyone sees how to best live through Covid differently. So to get to the line check I think what you did is fine, but I would have said before you went with I am only comfortable going if we all wear masks. If they donât want to do it then donât go. But it eliminates the showing up and fighting possibility. My personal take is that walking outside especially on a day with any breeze is probably very close to zero risk. You might not agree and going back to the rest of my post, that is fine.
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I think outside transmission is near zero risk when you have fleeting contact with someone. It isnât zero though. There just isnât much time and you would have to get enormously unlucky to have some virus spray at you and into your mouth and nose. Outside is safer than inside because the air isnât as still right? I have gone camping a few times during this whole ordeal and am a fairly frequent hiker on these trips. I normally move to the side of the path and pull up a neck gaiter (I realize these suck but the ease of pulling them on/off is why I have used them and in a very short encounter with little to no talking it has to be better than nothing) when I go past someone.
Now if you have 15 people outdoors at a BBQ standing around drinking and talking all day that has much more risk.
Iâm happy to hear why you think I am wrong though. I donât really know if I am right or not, I have pretty much just ingested random Covid tidbits here and there and mashed them together into my behavior rather than knowing for sure I am always doing the right thing.
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wearing masks outside around others is more about reinforcing mask compliance in riskier situations. like having your mask handy if you need to pop into a store. passing hundreds of mask-less people on a trail would, for sure, give me the impression itâs not necessary.
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Feel for you JT
At some point they are adults and we live in a society based on personal choice. People make stupid health choices all the time. I drink soda. Others use/abuse tobacco/alcohol/drugs to their detriment. Heck I know one guy (a cancer survivor) that doesnât understand that if played about 1/2 or 1/3 as much tennis heâd get to play more because he wouldnât keep having injuries.
That said, I really struggle with covid bad behavior because it is so close to drunk driving. Its the putting others at risk part.
If they are really just going mask free for outdoor activities its probably not too bad. We donât take them where we can control closeness. If we go on a trial we take put them on/off as needed. I think most itt can make pretty reasonable choices of what is risky and what is not. The general public is dependent on the government and canât or wonât understand that the government is under all kinds of pressure (from the general public) to have rules that donât always make sense. INDOOR DINING IS INSANE.
If you have to give it one more go, Iâd do it in writing and keep it real simple. Youâre worried about them because you love them and donât want them to be sick or feel guilty if they pass it on to someone else. Please avoid the worst things which is being unmasked indoors with other people. Then say nothing. It probably is preferable at this point to do nothing regardless.
I have the extra billy club with my family that Iâm degreed in a related field, but that only goes so far as Witchitaâs wife can attest Iâm sure. When it first happened, I wrote some emails and have mostly left it alone. Occasionally I get some questions, but mostly theyâve either behaved (or not told me when they havenât).
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This is much worse than Trumpâs shtick. Trump was urging reopening back in the spring, when expert consensus was that we were likely 18 months out from a vaccine. However wrong that is, itâs 100x crazier to be touting reopening now, when mass vaccination is (or should be) just around the corner. Pure madness
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Can confirm Florida is crazy right now. Evidently being OFB has made it a destination for people who are living under strict lockdowns. You would barely know thereâs anything unusual going on in the world right now, looking at the restaurants and bars. Your parents really should stay away.
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WHO: No herd immunity this year
The World Health Organization has warned herd immunity wonât be achieved this year, despite Covid vaccines being rolled out in countries across the world.
âWe are not going to achieve any levels of population immunity or herd immunity in 2021,â the WHOâs chief scientist Soumya Swaminathan told a briefing.
She stressed that people needed to continue measures such as social distancing, hand washing and wearing face coverings.
Link to aboveâŚ
UK now starting mass local vaccinationsâŚ
UK vaccination plan document published
The UK has published full details about its vaccination plans - stating it hopes to have immunised tens of millions of people by the spring.
The 47-page document highlights the plans to have 2,700 vaccine sites across the UK.
All residents and staff in about 10,000 care homes across the country will be offered a vaccine by the end of the month, it adds.
It states the government has had more than 200,000 offers of non-clinical support from the public and leading UK businesses to help with the logistics of the programme.
But why is this happening? I donât get it. The US and Canada are flushing down literally trillions of dollars by not rolling out vaccinations sooner.
BioNTech ups vaccine production target to 2bn doses this year
The German company BioNTech, which developed the first coronavirus vaccine approved in the west, has said it expects to produce 2bn doses in 2021, up from the 1.3bn previously forecast.
âWe now believe that we can potentially deliver approximately 2bn doses in total by the end of 2021, which incorporates the updated six-dose label,â the company said, referring to an additional dose that could be extracted from each vial of the vaccine.
European regulators last week approved doctors drawing six doses from each vial, boosting dosage capacity by 20%.
A vial of the BioNTech vaccine with a âfive-doseâ label. European regulators have now approved drawing six doses from each vial. Photograph: Christof Stache/AFP/Getty Images
The Mainz-based company, which developed the jab with the US firm Pfizer, is planning to open a new factory in Marburg, Germany, in February, which is expected to ramp up production capacity by 750m doses a year.
The site will join five other sites in Germany, Belgium and the US shared with Pfizer.
The company said it had shipped nearly 33m doses by 10 January, more than a month after Britain became the first western nation to approve any vaccine, on 2 December.
The German company said last week that studies showed its vaccine works against the new mutation found in variants uncovered in Britain and South Africa.
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Seems pretty reasonable to me.
Well I mean in general it makes much more sense from an EV point of view for old people to take huge risks than young people.
Iâve never understood why it is that we feel compelled to take so many risks when weâre young. Hormones, I guess.
At some point, you must realize that youâre on an island and the only help youâre going to get is from your wife. Youâve chosen a very extreme path that most people wouldnât do. The best you can probably hope for is for people to respect your decisions even when they donât agree with them for themselves. It feels like you are getting more of that than some other people ITT.
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Especially because you could tie in opening to getting vaccinated. Issue proof-of-vaccination cards and let restaurants or whatever serve people whoâve been vaccinated.
Hotel bookings in my open area are UP for January.
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