Your idea is basically setting up an experiment for a solved problem. Your experiment would put everyone you put in it at risk and come with 6-12 month timeframe delay before knowing if it would work and additional time before it could be implemented.
That would be dumb. Produce more vaccine, distribute it better. Follow the evidence. Taking shortcuts is a massive unnecessary risk that would be completely mitigated by doing other things better.
They are basing it on a lack of certainty, due to it being a novel virus, so they would rather err on the side of caution. I think we should respect that choice, even if we have a higher risk tolerance for ourselves.
Well Iām reading that doctors have a pretty high rate of desiring it, but just about every other type of health care worker (nurses, etc.) is hovering around 50%.
If I had to set an o/u Iād say about 60% want it now. I donāt know that anyone has accurate numbers for this.
Sticking people in categories is just terrible at this point. Even the act of verifying that someone is in the right groups requires some manpower that would be better used just giving the damn shots.
Iād even be OK if there was some prioritization at the end point. Just like how some grocery stores decided to offer special hours for only seniors to shop. That would be a much better way to do it, imo. At least better in terms of vaccinating more people in a shorter time.
Itās not just a courtesy. Itās literally swaying the odds for you and the poor grocery store worker. By however little Itās why the fuck weāre doing all this.
Minimize everything! 8 Bill people minimizing interactions will get us out of the tunnel better than all the dipshits who think 6 ft is a magic distance where the virus suddenly vanishes. Unless you just want to be a contrarian assholeā¦
The current rollout is obviously horrible, and will get better once Biden gets in office, but frankly if we are rolled out with reasonable
uptake and an understanding of who has immunity for how long and have the ability to roll out boosters by early to mid 2022 we got super bailed out by science and it is a first pump celebration. I assumed 2021 was a pandemic write off and good chance 2022 is too. I keep telling my wife no plans with flights until 2023. Just the reality of a pandemic. I do
think Fauci is right and that we probably can see our families again end of 2021, which will make things so much more bearable
EDIT: the holiday and underfunding pieces made above are great points. Its not like there are extra waves of people just sitting on benches ready to be activated for a pandemic, state budgets are stretched to the max, and the public health departments getting crushed for the last year deserve a holiday too. The pace will pick up, but if they get everyone the chance to get vaccinated at some point in 2021 it will be basically a met to beat expectations for me. Cant not pay, not plan for, and not resource something then expect it to magically happen fast and well.
One of my employees, the only one who ever comes to the office (twice a week to an otherwise empty office), knowingly exposed himself over the holiday break. Itās complicated and it sucks: heās divorced with kids. The ex lives with a new guy and his family, who all got sick. The grandma in that house died. So he was faced with a tough situation and he came up with: āI just wasnāt willing to force (the ex) to let me keep the kids or spend the entire Christmas break without them, so here we are.ā
Whatās also super fucking annoying is that he started getting symptoms last Wednesday and 1) is only telling us now (heās needed in the office this week) and 2) he hasnāt been tested yet. He had some whole plan where heād still go to the office and we told him he shouldnāt do anything until he gets tested.
I donāt know wtf he thought was going to happen. I think he was just closing his eyes and hoping for the best. The problem is, that doesnāt account for all the other people impacted by his decision. Like, for instance, HIS KIDS. I hope they end up OK (everybodyās sick).
We have a friend enrolled in the JnJ phase 3. This trial is a one shot but a two shot regime worked better in the monkeys. Looks they are going to do a 2 shot trial as well.
This is a direct antigen injection, essentially the spike protein (or some part of it).
Iām not sure if they have already started one shots with the mRNA vaccines (Pfizer and Moderna).
Not trying to restart the discussion. Iām on team let the experts decide and keep the politics types out of it. I donāt think itās unreasonable to speculate about other regimes and hopefully those alternatives are under study and consideration if feasible.
But no I donāt think we should change based on a theory and/or hope. Has to be on data.
ā In J&Jās newest preclinical study, the animals got a single shot of the vaccine candidates, and that did provide significant immunity to COVID-19. But previous studies by Barouchās group showed that giving a second booster shot raised the antibody response by tenfold in both animals and people.ā