COVID-19: Chapter 6 - ThanksGRAVING

Quite likely so, provided the passengers act reasonably. If they get litigious, I wouldn’t expect the decision to change, however.

It’s not even clear that they are actually banned for life.

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From the video in that article:

“We’ve flown all summer”

Lost any sympathy I might have had after this. Fuck them.

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If CDC recommends it and they don’t enforce it, then if someone else gets pozzed on the flight, there could be some liability there.

But even setting that aside, United is certainly perfectly reasonable to kick them off the plane. Lifetime ban seems a bit much, but that would be entirely dependent on how they reacted and how much shit they tried to stir up.

I’m not 100% but I’m pretty sure United has the same policies as other airlines in that they are banning people for as long as the mask requirement is in effect. Once masks are no longer required, the bans will be lifted.

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TMZ (linked to in the link that was posted) says that their sources in the airline say that the family is not banned.

Ban them for life from all airports and trains

Execute them imo

Based on experience from my own marriage - if you need a break that bad, you’re wife might be, uh, more than ok with you taking off for a weekend solo camping trip.

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I don’t think they are banned for life

And if they were, it wasn’t just because the toddler wouldn’t wear a mask but because of other things the parents did and aren’t saying

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Never forget

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Cool, I grew up less than a mile from here!

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Has the WaPo or NYT ever just flat refused to publish an op-ed from the President or Vice President? Seems like Pence full-on lying about a pandemic is where you would exercise some basic editorial oversight and tell him to find another venue.

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That was published in the Wall Street Journal.

(Not that I have any faith that NYT or WaPo would have refused to publish that if given the opportunity)

so this guy is saying vaccine has only shown to prevent illness but not transmission, meaning your kids could still get it and give it to you after getting vacinnated

https://twitter.com/JeromeAdamsMD/status/1337756076100358145

https://twitter.com/JeromeAdamsMD/status/1337762097782910977

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It makes sense to me. Admittedly, I don’t know shit about this stuff, but it seems logical that one could still contract the virus, be protected from illness by the vaccine, but at least for a little while, still have the virus in you and be able to spread it. I may be talking out my entire ass.

As I have previously argued, it’s a bad take. Formally, yes, the only study completed is that the vaccine helps the vaccinated, and not yet that it prevents transmission. The latter should indeed be properly demonstrated in a clinical study. That said, it’s also incredibly unlikely that any vaccine (in contrast to a therapeutic) would not prevent transmission, because it flies in the face of the basic and well-understood biology of how vaccines work. It would essentially be unprecedented for a vaccine to not prevent transmission. That doesn’t mean it’s impossible, and it doesn’t mean that the clinical study to demonstrate that it does isn’t worth doing, and it doesn’t even mean that I’ll never wear a mask again once I get the shot, but it’s so unlikely that if the vaccine is scarce and if it’s effective in young kids, then vaccinating them first makes very good sense.

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Rut roh

A new variant of coronavirus has been found which is growing faster in some parts of England, MPs have been told.

Health Secretary Matt Hancock said at least 60 different local authorities had recorded Covid infections caused by the new variant.

He said the World Health Organization had been notified and UK scientists were doing detailed studies.

He said there was “nothing to suggest” it caused worse disease or that vaccines would no longer work.

He told MPs in the House of Commons that over the last week, there had been sharp, exponential rises in coronavirus infections across London, Kent, parts of Essex and Hertfordshire.

"We’ve currently identified over 1,000 cases with this variant predominantly in the South of England although cases have been identified in nearly 60 different local authority areas.

“We do not know the extent to which this is because of the new variant but no matter its cause we have to take swift and decisive action which unfortunately is absolutely essential to control this deadly disease while the vaccine is rolled out.”