COVID-19: Chapter 6 - ThanksGRAVING

Also she rules and island, where you can easily monitor and/ or quarantine arrivals, so having basically no COVID cases seems like a no-brainer.

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UK response certainly leaves a lot to be desired compared to NZ, so I don’t mean to defend it any way, but they do have over 60 million extra people and had much more international travel to deal with.

Jacinda would almost certainly have done better than Boris, but I’m not sure she would have hit Angela levels of competence. It’s impossible to know.

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Man this Trump cult is on a different level. One of my friends is a teacher. She got pozzed last week and her family is in quarantine. She was told not to go to work and they shut down the school because 3 teachers tested positive. She was telling me her husband’s family are all Trump fans. So she called her MIL to tell her the entire family is sick. The MIL is upset. Why? Because it’s unfair to the kids to close the school if only 3 teachers got sick. These people are nuts.

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Yup a very quality nominee. The committee approves.

OFS is crazy when cases are high and protocols are half assed.

I will fight anyone on this.

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Let’s not go crazy here. The Covid response was good and we can argue how much of that is Merkel’s doing and how much it is having competent career bureaucrats at every level. She certainly failed in other areas that are less visible to those outside Germany and/or Europe.

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What happened to herd immunity with the flu?

Thats right its never going to happen. We vaccinate every year and still it only slows it down. Will covid-19 be any different? Who know.

I think this winter could help to give some clarity if we have a lot of pozzed people from last spring get pozzed again then we can finally throw out the herd immunity BS. But of course the people pushing it just want everyone to go back to work and they don’t care if herd immunity is real or not. They just care about money and preserving power and they don’t care who dies and who lives. We are all just replaceable worker bees so “herd immunity” why not let’s try it.

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In these days ruled by the fascist wannabes, not intentionally destroying, maligning and undermining compent career bureaucrats is A+ work.

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Yeah funny how a centre right politician is cited as a great politician on the forum! By that notion our conservative leader in Australia is great. I mean welfare has been obliterated and there is zero wage growth but woo low covid cases. Trump has really obliterated our standards.

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Yeah man the indications are really bad at this point. Its about to get scary. I did a little game theory exercise with th French population, ill demonstrate.

If over the next 120 days 40% of the French population gets infected with covid thats an average of 220,000 cases a day. The peak per day cases could be around 400,000. Its hard to think about how many daily hospitalizations that would be. Its just scary. If you want to compare to the US, France has about 1/5 the population of the US.

Dan Wetzel (yahoo sports) A+ lede on the Mullen story

“ The coronavirus is relentless, insidious, infectious and completely oblivious to your opinions.”

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Can I register a vote for the “competent career bureaucrats at every level” party please?

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That‘s the thing. It‘s not a party issue. For the most part the bureaucracy is organized and acts independently.

It was actually meant as an open question. If it’s not Merkel then who is it?

It’s a party issue in the US right now

Trump and his appointees overrule the civil servants and put out bullshit that the bureaucracy doesn’t agree with.

But yeah, usually it’s not a party issue. Another way Trump is uniquely awful.

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The antibody target of influenza mutates frequently, which creates a bunch of problems including vaccine ineffectiveness. Coronaviruses mutate a lot more slowly and the spike protein antigen appears better-conserved. If we can make a vaccine at all, it should work more reliably than the flu vaccine, although who knows how often we’ll need booster shots.

Pretty confused by this take. If I didn’t think there was ever going to be a vaccine, I would become an anti-lockdowns guy.

Sorry but This is another version of the false choice. Let’s assume no vaccine. The let’s Just accepts deaths to theoretically save deaths later is a canard.

Save lives now. Save them again later. Loss is permanent.

We can figure out how to manage. Real rapid testing. Real improvements in ventilation. Apps for contact tracing. Therapies will get better. Targeted lockdowns and/or rolling lockdown cycles. Giving up is murder.

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I don‘t know. I am not informed enough to rank Abe(*), Macron, Merkel and Trudeau for example. I don’t even know who qualifies as a world leader. Is Moon Jae In of South Korea a candidate? Or Stefan Löfven of Sweden? Because I had to look up their names and couldn’t tell you anything about them.

(*) I picked him instead of Yoshihide Suga because he only recently took office.

I don’t know about you, but I didn’t make the best decisions regarding the health of myself and others when I was 18-22.

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Just shows how even adequate management of covid is the easiest home run for any politician with otherwise questionable policy/views. You look at the odds of re-election of incumbents in countries where it’s been disastrous (UK, USA) vs Australia and NZ where two evenish elections pre covid are now likely to be/have been in NZ’s case bloodbaths in favour of incumbent parties. Ofc i suspect USA could be an outlier where it doesn’t matter due to voter suppression/racism/retardation of too many Americans.