COVID-19: Chapter 5 - BACK TO SCHOOL

they accept the risk that they’ll kill someone else

What do they care? As long as they don’t die it doesn’t matter.

They’d push the button that has a chance to kill a random person for the chance to go to a wedding.

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I put this hypothetical (to win a million) forward at a work lunch some years ago with a few people who didn’t know each other well, expecting it would break the ice with universal condemnation.

The guy sitting opposite me said, “Yeah, and keep pushing it”.

That went well.

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He sounds like an honest guy. Nearly all of press that button repeatedly for far less than a million dollars. Bought a video game lately? Went out to a fancy meal? Paid for a streaming service? That money could have saved a life.

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That’s just like the ncaa basketball rule. if the young lad lain on the floor is a Duke therefore thow it is a charging foul

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This is technically true but practically meaningless, and is an extension of the paternalism with which rich countries regard poor ones, imo.

That same paternalism is what has led to devastation in poor countries as we try to help them. Opportunities to “save a life” for the cost of your Netflix subscription are deceptively difficult to identify, and mostly just play into NGO marketing. And there are many concrete examples (1990s Somalia, for instance) where a lot of people gave a lot of money trying to save lives and it ended in disaster, and would have been better if foreigners never came along.

Buying an SUV instead of a car, or eating meat, are clearer cut examples of selfishness with a negative impact on other people to include a heightened risk of killing someone else.

Did my earlier post from bed without doing any research. Estimates of cost per life saved range from $900 to $7,000 (here). My point still stands that nearly all of us make choices that result in lives being lost (whether it’s eating meat or not donating to effective charities) for far less than a million dollars in return.

There’s an old twilight zone episode on this. Button gets delivered to a guy with the explanation that if he presses it he’ll receive a million dollars but somebody he doesn’t know will die. Debates it all episode, finally pushes the button, dude comes with the million and takes the button away. Guy asks what will you do with the button now? Dude says I’m going to give it to somebody that you don’t know…

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That’s the thing - if you think you’re justified in pushing the button to kill an unknown person you also have to be ok with an unknown person killing your parent or child…or you.

If you are positive please don’t post. We don’t want to ruin our perfect record. Thanks.

good luck. Hope it’s negative.

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The guy that took the button meant exactly that the next “unknown person” is this cycle’s $1,000,000 WINNAR.

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Life on planet earth would be transformed for the better imo.

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I mean sure, especially in New Orleans health care, but that’s how hospice works. You go home and you die.

As capacity shrunk, Ochsner employees adopted an unusual method to withhold life-sustaining care from patients with poor prognoses, several told ProPublica. In some cases, doctors gave patients do-not-resuscitate orders without family or patient consent, sometimes overruling families that wanted everything done for their loved one, three nurses said.

We did this too, and I never felt bad about it. Medical futility exists, and it is extremely dangerous to run a code on a covid patient. I’m not doing it the third time you code, period.

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Gotta say that wearing a mask becomes fairly easy after a while. Didn’t even notice I was wearing one outside. It also allows me to quietly sing songs without drawing attention. Without the mask, I would keep it to myself since people would think I’m nuts. With it, I get to quietly rock out in public.

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Hahaha, I’ve been doing the same thing

Doctor shipping DNRs makes me extremely uncomfortable. Didn’t know that was a thing.

I guess I get it, but every poor bastard that has to show up to a futile code loves doctors that will tell family members we aren’t doing cpr regardless of your wishes.

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Yeah I get it, it’s just strange to think about for a pre-hospital guy. We’re running it regardless unless the paperwork is in order and in hand or there are obvious signs.

Well in the hospital, these patients are not ones that someone was called out of the blue to take care of.

They (i.e. the futile ones) have been there for some time and the details of there situation are well known to all involved in their care.

So it makes perfect sense that you do what you do and they do what they do. Not strange at all, really.

Yeah, I agree. Just a different perspective