They don’t even have a plan for quarantining people, or if they do they’re keeping it top secret:
The school district has not announced if students who were exposed will have to quarantine and have not given any notice about shutting down classrooms.
He doesn’t understand shit. He’s bored, he’s sick of being at home, and he’s intellectually lazy. So OPEN 'ER UP BABY!!!
You do understand that quarantining slows down herd immunity, right?
10:57 a.m.: Florida’s Department of Health on Sunday confirmed 6,229 additional cases of COVID-19, pushing the state’s known total to 532,806. There were also 77 Florida resident deaths announced, bringing the statewide resident death toll to 8,186.
https://www.miamiherald.com/news/coronavirus/article244835272.html
Arrgh so much this. I was driving listening to the radio heard an announcement today some new initiative called stay home to save granny. The official said ‘we know that most young people who get this will be totally fine but…’ I yelled at the radio,we don’t fucking know that!
Where are you getting this number?
Numerous studies have produced numbers > 70% for heart damage, and > 60% for lung damage. It’s not clear whether there is overlap so > 70% at the very least.
I would say at least six of them have been posted in this thread at some point.
I feel like I keep up pretty well with this stuff and I am enormously skeptical of this number unless it’s referring to the population that was hospitalized.
For everyone who gets COVID or just for the serious cases? This seems way exaggerated to me.
It’s the whole population of people that tested positive, so no sorting by severity. I think the best study was German.
Jesus, how are regs on this forum still not aware of this??? This is so hopeless for this fucking country if people in the top 1% of being informed on this still don’t know.
That one found heart damage 2.5 months after COVID in 78 of 100 people. Here’s the source study:
Like, fuck, we’ve discussed this here already.
I think the studies just show enzymes or whatever consistent with heart damage and also scarring on the lungs consistent with lung damage. But I don’t believe any of those studies necessarily show permanent long term damage.
78% showed damage, 60% showed ongoing inflammation at 2.5 months. So I guess you could argue the floor in that study is 60% and the number with persisting damage is between 60% and 78%, although most of what I’ve read has just pegged it at 78%.
We have no way of knowing if it’s permanent. So far it’s lasting. Nobody seems to be speculating on how long it will last.
That’s enough for me to say “let’s play it safe until we know more” rather than “fuck it, I’ll risk long-term damage for the economy”
You can’t extrapolate those percentages at all to the general population. I’m on my phone right now but 33% of cases in that sample were hospitalized. I’m not even sure if 33% of cases are symptomatic let alone hospitalized.
I believe there are likely long term serious effects of the virus, but those percentages are basically fear porn.
Fine, take the 33% hospitalized and remove 33 from the numbers and you get 45/67 or 67% of non-hospitalized.
Sure we don’t know the effects of the scarring or the elevated levels but it’s enough for us to say “let’s find out”
Also, the majority in the study were asymptomatic
This. A little common sense should also have gotten you to this conclusion. If 70%+ of everyone who got covid had heart damage (or other serious complications) the world would be over already. We wouldn’t bother with immigration ads to Canada. We’d be digging bunkers.
Right, even that is just about about on par with my > 70%. And it includes NO hospitalizations. Call the hospitalization rate 5% instead of 33%, and add those back in, and you’re at 50/72 or 69.4%.
But hey let’s just collectively put our heads in the sand, what could go wrong?
A little common sense would check the math even when removing all hospitalized cases, as Nicholas did.
Or is everyone’s threshold that 67% is nbd and 70% is end of the world bunkers?
There is some serious statistical malpractice happening itt.