I hear ya bro. No one should ever change their mind when new data come in. Everyone is eternally right or wrong based on their immutable gut feelings at the moment they first make a decision.
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Jesus Christ you canât even read the title of your own source?
Data from original work showed efficacy >95% with the 3 and 4 week regimens of Pfizer and Moderna. Unlike other countries like Canada and UK, the USA had more vaccines and an inability to take proper precautions among wide swaths of the country.
A delayed sequence would have been fucking moronic in America in the winter of 2020-21. Delaying would have gotten relatively small amounts of improvement when two hundred and fifty fucking thousand people were getting covid each day. Things are very different now, and using this to criticize the original rollout is frank trolling⌠again.
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Thereâs a lot of flat-out lying and retconning going on ITT. The UKâs original plan to space out the 2nd dose was due to limited supplies. The data supporting improved efficacy didnât come out until after the decision.
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To be fair church has been right about things he was long slated for.
Thatâs what I thought when reading the excerpt below, I just didnât feel like taking the time to look it up, and gave @Churchill credit as a UK resident for remembering better than me and not flat-out lying. ButâŚ
Lie or bad memory churchill?
How bout the two of you donât misread your citations for a whole day before talking about how right you are?
Well, what about the period of time in the spring and summer of 2021 when cases were very low?
Also, I think people are forgetting what the argument was about. Early in the rollout, the argument was that the first dose conferred substantial protection (maybe 70% IIRC), so it made sense to use limited vaccine supply for first doses to get as much protection as possible. The argument was that you would get the most vulnerable part of the population substantially protected faster that way. The counterargument was that it was unwise to do something risky for that short term benefit.
It only became apparent that wider spacing was beneficial for durability in late summer of last year.
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USA numbers were never actually very low and we were always at a very high risk of another outbreak. That summer âvery lowâ still has a 10k 7dma that had 160k 7dma 30 days later. Late summer, ie August/September, was 160k per day.
after encountering a lot of brit and other euro travelers (also some usa americans) for the past week, i can definitively conclude the world thinks covid is over. havenât seen any masks that are n95. mostly surgical and worn below the nose for 90% of the time. significant percentage of time itâs just a scarf. even more often no masks at all. thankfully people working in most shops and restaurants are masking (but not everyone), although it really is only due to regulations. younger people are the most lax, but some clearly unhealthy older people are just really done with it all. kids appear to be going to school with no special precautions either.
the good observations are, vaccinations are very strictly checked on arrival, and still required to leave. grocery store had a crate of antigen home tests by the door, completely full, noone is buying them. might be on sale even, didnât check the price. no major coughing though, so thatâs kinda promising.
How about you being polite? Possible?
He wasnât swearing at anyone in that post. Whatâs the more polite way to express that sentiment?
Be the change you want to see.
Going outside of the initially tested 3/4 weeks would have been gross negligence for sure.
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Doesnât really add up as an explanation for what the CDC is thinking. If you thought 10k cases/day was too many to risk delaying second shots, how could you be comfortable considering the change when case levels are 25x as high?
Local man predicts rain every day. Sometimes he is right.
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Local man in local bar on days it rains, âI fucking tollld youuuu!!!â
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Caught up with a teacher friend yesterday. (Melbourne, Australia)
She works with disabled students.
The teachers and students are all being given 5 free rapid tests per week.
I think itâs two per week for other students.