COVID-19 (2): Turns out it's going to be pretty bad actually

So what’s the verdict on The Stranger? “Scenes from an Italian Restaurant” is my fave.

I think the math works that way as well. All we can do is to try and keep it from getting as bad as Italy as in as many places as possible. (Noting that some NYC hospitals have at least approached Italy level overload).

You hope for some seasonality. “Hope”

You hope for some better treatments are developed and confirmed.

2,000/week sucks but sadly it’s manageable. Could easily be 10x.

Get it down low enough that some type of contact tracing can help keep transmission down but still allow for some basic opening of the work world. I don’t see schools/sports/entertainment anytime soon. Of course that means churches too.

Everyone wears masks in public. Maybe mass transit can be fitted with much higher air turnover.

The haves that Can afford to stay home and out of work or WFH can ride this out at fairly low risk.

The have nots have no choice but to stay on the hustle. America USA dog eat dog country sadly.

Will try to dig for average vs current daily deaths by state tomorrow.

You absolutely cannot completely contain it. But you can slow it the hell down and continue buying time for a vaccine.

Lol, I live in upstate NY. Your fairly large, fairly liberal, middle American City is way larger, and way more liberal than my small, upstate, voted for trump in ‘16 county. To be clear, I never said that contact tracing was going to happen and be successful. We are clearly down the road of just lots and lost of death. I was just pointing out that it is an option, and that if we had a functional national government, it’s what we’d be doing.

With substantial testing, so you know who is sick and who has had it, tracing could be very useful when trying to get society back on track.

When (if) if we are able to properly see who has it, contract tracing could be very useful to limit it spreading unimpeded.

Basically contract tracing will be helpful once there’s mass immunization and/or everyone’s already been exposed. Key thing right now is to just slow it down.

If you’re so desperate to go broke you could always start a workers cooperative with the mission to install solar power and help immigrants, especially undocumented immigrants get work, money and skills.

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When everyone is actually tested and diagnosed you can more aggressively quarantine those who are sick. Which lowers the number of people you need to trace.

As previously noted google and Apple are working together on a system to facilitate extensive contract tracing.

The biggest problem we are going to have in the US is people feeling it is infringing on them, and I am not sure there is a way to overcome that.

But based on what SK is doing, I think if we ever reach proper testing levels, we could use ongoing testing and technology tracing to allow us to CAREFULLY open parts of the country.

Otherwise we either wait for a treatment or vaccine or just kill lots of people.

Cliffs: transparency is lacking

https://www.ajc.com/news/state--regional-govt--politics/public-given-sparse-details-deadly-outbreak/eRBs5mrNagETnpr6ZGejzM/

I mentioned it earlier but Florida isn’t even counting deaths from snow birds.

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I’ve been listening to it since the post itt; great album.

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That‘s not really my experience. Anecdotally a lot of women are more sensitive concerning the temperature and therefore might be more reluctant to keep windows open in spring. But that‘s it.
The reason given is also questionable. The Black Death was in1349, when most „Americans“ were still living in Europe and I guess people did not have glass windows back then.

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Here for the Billy Joel derail. Absolutely my favorite artist of all-time and The Stranger is my favorite album of his. Only one song on there that I am lukewarm towards, “Just the Way You Are”, because I can’t get over the idea that it was written for his wife…the one before Christie Brinkley.

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He lives in Heimerdingen, Baden-Wurttemberg. Maybe the kidney thing is regional. I’m sure the plague thing is his theory.

My step-grandparents refused to open a window at night no matter how stuffy it was. They thought diseases were carried on the night winds.

Also there’s the nursery rhyme from the Spanish Flu about opening the window and “in flew enza”.

ffs, the CDC is based in Atlanta.

https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/492429-stanley-chera-real-estate-developer-and-trump-friend-dies-of

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It is rumored when he got sick Trump’s attitude changed drastically and he started taking it seriously for the first time.

No idea how the death will hit him.

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He likes people who don’t die

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