COVID-19 (2): Turns out it's going to be pretty bad actually

I thought they said the antibody test used in the German experiment that claims 15% of that area tested already had it was over 99% accurate for SARS-CoV-2 antibodies. (i.e. - it could select for SARS-CoV-2 versus other coronavirus antobodies.)

I wonder why this one can’t rule those out?

I’ve recently read that it’s endemic to a certain species of Asian bats. And not the kind that are occasionally eaten. And that it may have passed from bats through pangolins to jump to humans. Interestingly, pangolins are at least somewhat related to cats, which I guess means that it’s possible pangolins and cats share some biologic traits which could make them receptive to infection?

Take one step back up the tree to find bats and then looking at all the other branches from Scrotifera down is pretty scary. (Doesn’t mean anything necessarily, I’m just assuming and imagining but have no scientific understanding of this stuff.)

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Shenzhen has become the first Chinese city to ban the sale and consumption of dog and cat meat.

It comes after the coronavirus outbreak was linked to wildlife meat, prompting Chinese authorities to ban the trade and consumption of wild animals.

Shenzhen went a step further, extending the ban to dogs and cats. The new law will come into force on 1 May.

Looks more like Echo Park based on the location of City Hall. Kinda NW central LA.

(Then again, being from from OC, I’ve always thought of East LA as East of downton, when maybe everything east of West LA is East LA. Any natives care to opine?)

Thirdf (as least so far).

My pony died of Covid. If you want a response to something on the internet, make an mistake in grammar or geography.)

Trump never shut the country down and it’s not up to him when it starts back up again. Sure he will have more influence over some states than others, but most of the entire country shut down at the state level with no help or guidance from the feds.

He could (and probably will) leverage certain things to try to force states back against their wishes, but that’s a pretty dangerous political game to play.

I think he huffs and puffs and mostly everybody ignores him in the short term.

Dog and cat meat aren’t as common as people think.

I didn’t see dog or cat meat served at a single restaurant in China during the 2 1/2 years I lived there.

Meat like that was eaten when food was scarce and people basically ate whatever they could get their hands on. Now that domesticated farm animals are plentiful, there’s no practical reason to go chasing down less tasty wild animals.

Once, I had dog meat served in a stew made by a person I knew. Given the amount of spices and vegetables used, I probably wouldn’t have recognized it as dog meat if I wasn’t told in advance that we were having it. Leads me to believe that the meat itself is not particularly tasty if they had to season it so much and serve it in a stew.

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David Lat, a 30ish legal news reporter in Covid recovery had a twitter thread in which he notes that being on a ventilator is no small thing and can have significant short and long term effects. He ran marathons and, for now at least, is winded after stairs. You take less healthy people and there are going to be significant effects.

(I take it your post isn’t specific to vents, but people with bad cases are going to have a variety of issues.)

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I used them too, for a week or so after I stopped going into Cambridge for work after the Biogen thing blew up. My use was based on that Dr. Robb email which was shared publicly in late Feb or maybe early Mar.

Fuck my dog has had a bad cough for the last week and is 14 :(.

I took her to the vet and they just gave her antibiotics.

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Yeah, Trump can’t open anything, and even if he could, it ain’t a light switch.

From this must read article that I assume has been linked above, but I’m still scrolling through thread.

A memo dated Feb. 14, prepared in coordination with the National Security Council and titled “U.S. Government Response to the 2019 Novel Coronavirus,” documented what more drastic measures would look like, including: “significantly limiting public gatherings and cancellation of almost all sporting events, performances, and public and private meetings that cannot be convened by phone. Consider school closures. Widespread ‘stay at home’ directives from public and private organizations with nearly 100% telework for some.”

The memo did not advocate an immediate national shutdown, but said the targeted use of “quarantine and isolation measures” could be used to slow the spread in places where “sustained human-to-human transmission” is evident.

Within 24 hours, before they got a chance to make their presentation to the president, the plan went awry.

Mr. Trump was walking up the steps of Air Force One to head home from India on Feb. 25 when Dr. Nancy Messonnier, the director of the National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases, [publicly issued] the blunt warning they had all agreed was necessary.

But Dr. Messonnier had jumped the gun. They had not told the president yet, much less gotten his consent.

On the 18-hour plane ride home, Mr. Trump fumed as he watched the [stock market crash] after Dr. Messonnier’s comments. Furious, he called Mr. Azar when he landed at around 6 a.m. on Feb. 26, raging that Dr. Messonnier had scared people unnecessarily. Already on thin ice with the president over a variety of issues and having overseen the failure to quickly produce an effective and widely available test, Mr. Azar would soon find his authority reduced.

The meeting that evening with Mr. Trump to advocate social distancing was canceled, replaced by a news conference in which the president announced that the White House response would be put under the command of Vice President Mike Pence.

I’m sure it’s no fun to be intubated, but wouldn’t a bad case of pneumonia (w/o venting) still cause at least some lingering respiratory issues in the weeks/months after recovery?

Sounds like Boris got close to the ventilator

https://twitter.com/BorisJohnson/status/1249336590482243585?s=20

This story, linked in the NY Times piece, about the 2019 prosecution of one of the leading disease modelers for (minor) grant fraud is simply crazy given the rampant criminality of the Trump administration. She’s been suspended from GA Tech and is awaiting sentencing while she works on Covid. Probably not worthy of a pardon like Joe Arpaio.

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Iirc it’s the unusually long period of intubation and unusually high pressures necessary that cause the trauma. Iirc legit barotrauma doesn’t heal, but it’d be great if one of the legit medical professionals here could confirm.

I got shit on for my post about flushable wipes, but one costco box lasts 3+ months.

Seems fairly major as far as grant fraud goes? She knowingly forged signatures on her application and then lied about it. Unless you think the Trump administration has politicized…the NSF Inspector General (seems unlikely) then this is probably a prosecution that would have happened under any administration.

Too much guessing and qualifying of statements going on in that article imo. And considering how much has been rolled back or outright wrong about this virus so far, well I’m going to just keep on doing my thing for now.