Like, given the number of posters here’s there is a chance that not everyone on this board survives this and this fucking poster is yelling at us because there are other problems in the world and we’re being selfish. And I get that from not just her one post but also the context of her previous posts in this thread.
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Latest USA number I saw was 50 deaths out of 2340 cases, or a 2.1% mortality rate.
I understand why this number is probably meaningless. But, given the lack of testing, and the rationing of testing to the worst off, wouldn’t that suggest that there are far, far more people with the virus (the denominator), than there are people dying from it without us knowing it’s from coronavirus (the numerator)? Thus, a much lower mortality rate?
Certainly there’s a lag in deaths as it takes time for the virus to kill, but my thinking had me hopeful. I’m sure someone will crush that hope though with thoughtful insight.
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That’s the problem. Both the numerator and the denominator are meaningless at this point. This thing can take a month to kill.
I’ve been reminding myself to notice the good and beauty in the world even during times like this. Anne Frank wrote,
“Beauty remains, even in misfortune. If you just look for it, you discover more and more happiness and regain your balance.”
You are right that there is some unnecessary worrying going in in this thread but I equate it to a type of journaling. In my personal journals when I record my anxieties it helps to reduce them in my everyday life.
So if this thread helps people cope with the stresses I’m all for it but I think it’s helpful to remind everyone that in our day to day lifes we need to focus on what we can control and still try to notice beauty and be grateful for the good that we do have.
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Coronapalooza is March 31st.
Yes, the information I’ve seen is that SK, the only place with something approaching significant testing, has a mortality rate of 0.6%. This is why the infectious disease expert Sam Harris interviewed said 0.6% was the ceiling. I think Harris assumed it would be worse.
The notes someone posted above from the UCSF panel were informative.
Are you guys completely isolating from social places? Breweries, restaurants, takeout, ect… thought about going to grab a beer at a local brewery and sit outside, but can’t tell if that’s foolish.
Depends if it’s raining.
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I’ve also had congestion and popping in one ear. I’m like 90% sure this is a cold or allergies. Breathing seems normal - hard to be sure when focusing on it so much now, but between meditation and running I am more aware of my breath than most. Wife convinced me to not try and run this AM but I’m on the exercise bike as I write this and it’s no harder than usual. Going to continue to monitor my temperature and socially isolate as much as possible.
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So potatoes… I’m sure @ViridianDreams (cool picture from Peru by the way!) knows better, but in general it’s easier to grow the potatoes that can be harvested early, as the common potato plagues do not have enough time to develop. They also taste better. The drawback is that you can’t store them as long as the potatoes that are harvested later in the season.
It’s pretty easy to grow them, but if you grow the kinds that are prone to the plagues you shouldn’t use the same soil year after year.
It’s a great experience to harvest them. You see this small plant growing unenthusiastically for a couple of months and then when it’s time to harvest, you find that the earth has been filled with potatoes!
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This is true, but this is squarely on Trump. What stops social breakdown is effective leadership. Trump’s clownshow administration does the exact opposite, it throws kerosene in the social breakdown fire.
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I stopped going to restaurants at the beginning of the week including to get takeout. My last trip to the grocery store was Tuesday Night. If instacart remains functional that’ll be my last trip for a while. Work is another story though.
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A big problem is that lots of people are and will be just normally sick and most of then will at least suspect CV and be really stressed out, when (for now) that will be incorrect. That said, being regular ill will probably leads to good habits with most.
Interesting to see the Chinese model above where they separate families as family clustering can promote spread.
That could be the ceiling if every case gets the appropriate care. However: the full numbers are not available yet since there are still many active cases, but maybe he accounted for those.
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I don’t feel sorry for him. Guys like this are the argument for anti price gouging laws… which are something I’m generally against.
I want to reward people for creating additional supply on short notice and I don’t want them to be trying to optimize around cost per unit landed in a crisis… but guys like this help create the shortages in the first place and are firmly in the con column of free markets in a disaster scenario.
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Another idiotic thing Trump keeps saying is that those coming from affected countries are being “tested,” when they are being “screened” (ie, asked a couple of questions by some ICE lackey at the passport check). I’ve heard the screening, for both US and foreign, is inconsistent and doesn’t involve things like temperature checks. It’s basically public health theater.
Does he understand the difference? Who knows.
BTW, afaik the 30 day EU travel ban will be entirely ineffective and probably harmful. Harmful in that many people coming to the US will have good reasons to do so, including reasons related to public health and selling medical supplies and equipment.
He definitely doesn’t know the difference. I think it was a rhetorical questions, but seriously Donald Trump doesn’t know things.
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It’s the thought that counts.
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