We are going to see that photo at least once a day for the rest of our fucking lives.
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This guy says issues more likely with local law enforcement than Secret Service.
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Having personally worked several Presidential and Vice Presidential security details, hereās some of my thoughts based on the available info of the assassination attempt on Trump.
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The Secret Service employ a multi-tiered defense in depth approach to protective missions. An inner tier offer close protection support, these being the agents you see rushing in and surrounding Trump after the initial shots go off.
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A second middle tier is tasked with identifying and defending against mid-range threats, i.g. the crowd, etc. This tier is largely comprised of local and state law enforcement temporarily attached to the security detail. This is the area that I worked on prior details.
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Finally, you have an extend tier, which covers long distance threats. This can include counter sniper details and cyber/SIGINT support and CBRN defense.
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People have wondered how could the counter snipers in the videos not have seen the would be assassin prior to him getting off a shot.
This is because the area of responsibility for those counter snipers on the roof behind Trump was very likely in the extend tier
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Essentially they were scanning for threats a great distances well beyond the roughly 150 meters the threat appeared.
This is evidenced by the fact that the elevated counter sniper has to dramatically drop his line of sight to respond to the shooter.
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Secret Service advanced teams would have absolutely pre-scouted the location and identified the building the shooter used as a vulnerable spot in the defense.
Which begs the question, how was this guy still able to climb on the roof and get off a shot?
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Based on limited details at this point, IMO, the security breakdown occurred in the middle tier, which would likely include law enforcement who were supposed to be assigned to the area near the outbuildings.
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How that significant of a breakdown could occur is up for speculation. However, like I said this tier is largely dependent on local law enforcement and not the Secret Service. So speculatively, the local LEOs who were supposed to be in the area and make sure no one with a
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gun climbed up on the roof, f*cked up.
- People have said that witnesses saw the guy with the gun on the roof, told police, but that they failed to respond and prevent the assassination attempt.
So how does that happen?
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Well, thereās typically limited lines communication between the Secret Service and the local LEOs working the middle tier.
You usually have one or two local LEO liaisons who have direct communication with the Secret Service, which means communications on the ground
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between the local LEOs being told about the shooter are being routed through dispatch, to local liaisons, then to Secret Service.
Compounding the difficulty to rapidly respond is the fact that thereās always some confusion and inefficiency when multiple different LEO
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agencies come together to work a detail. Most of these agencies arenāt used to working with each other and arenāt given much information beyond a few pre-event briefings.
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I actually saw what can go wrong in these scenarios first-hand when President Bushās Secret Service detail almost engaged a local police SWAT/counter sniper team during the 2004 G8 summit. No one had properly communicated the local SWAT teamās position so all the
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Secret Service saw was heavily armed individuals with a line of sight on the President.
The whole thing was seconds away from being a tragic incident.
In this same vein, there was likely some delay and confusion with the initial reports of a person with a gun on the roof
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as local cops and Secret Service agents would all be trying to confirm the shooter didnāt belong to one of the security support teams.
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So in summary, when looking for blame in this massive security failure, if I was a betting man, Iād say the answer rests with whatever detail (likely local LEOs) were assigned to the area near the outbuildings.
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Iāll also add that I worked 5 Presidential details as a local LEO attachment. Even though I was in close proximity for each detail, in only 2 of them did I actually ever see the President or Vice President. That was Bush, while he was in the limo driving away. And Chaney
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but that was because I was on an inner position, feet away from him.
Youāre explicitly trained that your eyes are always on the crowd, surroundings and potential threats.
Never on the President themselves.
For obvious reasonsā¦
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Now my experience is entirely limited to official presidential visits, which are planned at least months and in some cases a year in advance.
Itās likely that some of the breakdowns or issues I mentioned can be exponentially increased when it comes to campaign trips
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as these stops can come up or change on very short notice.
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Itās funny because on video you can see his showman instincts kick into gear after the secret service says itās all clear. Itās one of the few authentic things about Trump.
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his tone as he said āwait wait waitā, iāve listened to it 10 times, and he knew ~immediately that this was the photo op of a lifetime. you can hear it in his voice
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Iām thinking of framing that photo and putting it on my living room wall. That picture alone puts Mr. Trump over 300 electoral votes imo.
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He probably registered GOP to vote against Trump in primary, if PA has that kind of primary
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Tell me you are a complete moron without telling me you are a complete moron.
Thank you for sharing your thoughts and feelings with us. You are a valued contributor to UP, and Iām sure I speak for all of us when I say that I look forward to hearing from you again soon!
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PA is a closed primary state so this is most likely the case
That describes me. Brb, thereās some very loud knocking at my door.
Yeah, you shouldnāt have voted in PA, you silly Michigander
I am in PA. Register R to vote anti Trump
In 2016
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But the Spartans :(
or more recent :
https://x.com/priscathevenot/status/1690280501100126209
(actual tweet by one of Macronās ministers)
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