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Yes, a real meeting of the minds. No date announced.
i dont get the âthis is political!!â i mean, i get it because those people are dumb⌠but ALL prosecutions are political in nature. DAâs are elected and USattyâs are politically appointed. daâs are prosecuting to get elected again. every prosecution is to âscore political pointsâ for you directly or for your boss⌠thatâs how the system works. the âjusticeâ is the by product not the goal.
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Iâm not going to call him a shitty vote getter until the election is over. He outperformed the polls quite a bit both times.
I would vote for a Democratic convicted rapist over the most law-abiding Republican.
Out performed the polls does not a non-shitty-vote-getter make.
If poll say someone is going to get 10% and they get 20%, thatâs massive overperformance, but they are still a pretty shit vote getter.
Having said that, I also think that he is not a shitty vote getter. Just not for that reason.
i feel like saying heâs a vote-getter isnât wrong, lots of people who normally wouldnât give a fuck about a cookie-cutter conservative or voting line up for him.
heâs just also a vote-againster.
Howâs everyone feeling about the election? Gotta say I think this conviction is going to hurt his chances bigly. Call me naive, but here we are. A lot of people arenât going to be able to bring themselves to vote for a literal convict. I donât think those people would therefore vote for Biden, but theyâd be likely to stay home or go third party.
Well, since you asked.
Youâre naive
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i just read that American Presidents on average have been convicted of .8 felonies each.
nice
edit: convicted of .8 felonies⌠so far.
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I think you are more right than wrong. The average pundit is so convinced that people are locked in more than reality. Sure, lots of people are, but lots of people are fickle and disconnected, too. There may not be a ton of them, but a couple-few percentage points is still a massive swing in the probabilities.
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Not my buddy, my boss (although I have had drinks with him in a group setting)
I do believe he is telling the truth that heâd rather vote for Haley or Manchin and he doesnât necessarily like Trump
Itâs the policies. Heâs a âpull yourself up by the bootstrapsâ guy who thinks being poor is a choice and honestly canât fathom why anyone would choose it
Like you, I also would vote Biden (against Trump) even if he were in a coma on election day. So I do understand having such a vitriolic hatred for âthe other guyâ that youâd vote for anyone but. What I donât quite understand is why Biden brings that out in people. What specific policies people hate so much that theyâd vote for a convict
Unlike BruceZ, I would NOT vote for a Democrat convicted rapist against a generic Republican and donât think most Democrats would. I hope Iâm right about that
Generic Republican is drawing extremely live to also be a rapist. This might not be as easy as you think.
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Heâs probably lying about not liking Trump. I bet deep down he likes Trump, he just is pretending so as not to piss you off. Hating Biden is just an excuse he uses to justify his vote for Trump - when he would vote Trump over any D (including Manchin, that is just straight bs trying to sound like he doesnât hate all Dâs).
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Right.
In 2020 he lost 51 to 46%. Imagine we see in 2024 52 to 42. Just a few points means a blowout.
I was feeling the conviction and here we are. Iâm feeling good about the election.
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Iâm with you with a side of dread.
I donât see Pennsylvania going Trump. Signs are way way down and Ive driven through the boonies recently. I live in the burbs which is supposedly where the difference is. Lots of outward conversations that are very Trump negative. I get theyâve gone stealth, but not that stealth.
Doesnât mean Iâm not massively worried. We are going to see real attempts to cheat- fake ballots, voter intimidation, shit- we may see false flag dem fake ballots to help plant the seed. Hopefully itâs more one-offs by MAGA nation that are easily exposed and not sophisticated operatives.
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The caveat that you need to bear in mind is that these fickle people also have the memories of goldfish. As much as the âgrab 'em by the pussyâ tape materially hurt Trump (imo) in 2016, that got undone by Comeyâs fearmongering about Buttery Males right before election day. The good thing about âDonald Trump is a convicted felon,â is exact that: it has a short, memorable, and easily understood message to go with it that can just be hammered over and over until election day. But Joe better not fuck something up, either.
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I think people are irrationally biased against convicts. Buttery males just supports that. But as you say, Biden needs to not make some huge blunder himself. I think if we had the election today weâd see a blowout. So letâs go status quo hooray.