Dude… they aren’t helpless. They’re going to have guns too. Three hundred million people with nothing to lose is a climate invasion not a refugee crisis. They can take them willingly with some semblance of control or they can have ww4.
Highly unlikely, and as we’re fond of pointing out to gun nuts, what the fuck is a gun going to do against the power of the US military state?
I’m talking about Europe.
The UK, France, and Germany all have large weapons Industries.
Sorry I thought we were still on the “world War” hypothetical. I assume, on our current path the US would join Europe in its slaughter of climate refugees. Even if not, it’s not like Europe is hurting for military might either, especially when compared to a bunch of families fleeing 3rd world, poverty-stricken countries.
Wars are about numbers and who is willing to absorb the most suffering. My money is on the Africans with their backs to the wall if it comes to that.
Particularly since they’ll have Russian and Chinese hardware in addition to whatever they can make themselves.
Europe will just take them instead of fighting. To fight they would need to all agree. I don’t see that happening.
There’s a lot of land in northern Canada and Europe that gets populated because of climate change as well.
No question shit is going to get weird so trying to predict it is basically impossible.
Yeah, a more realistic dystopian midterm future is Western Europe looking more like Israel in terms of being walled-off, guarded, and expelling people they don’t want there.
I’m sorry to keep bringing it up, but why wouldn’t all these desperate third world countries just start pumping sulfates into the stratosphere rather than accept their countries becoming uninhabitable and everyone dying?
Cheap sci-fi movie plot…world with two big landmasses, one is too cold and the other is too hot and they have geo-engineering wars.
Someone needs to make my sci-fi movie: Massive solar flare takes out all the computers in the Western hemisphere, damages most storage media to the point of being unrecoverable, electrical grid hosed, etc. The Eastern hemisphere is more or less unscathed. The US has become a deranged dictatorship by this point - poisoning the world with massive air and water pollution, exporting war (but in a bad way), internment camps. So Russia and China take their chance and invade. In the end a plucky band of rebels, many of whom were in the internment camps, hold the country and restore us back to a true democracy.
Also kid’s movie: In the future no one has to work. But every kid gets a personal robot at age 10, which they have to train to go out and do the work human’s used to do. One kid’s robot is a bumbling mess, never can get things right, doesn’t act or think like the other robots. His parents implore the kid to replace the robot, which the kid almost does, until he finds out what happens to defective robots. In the end the bumbling robot saves the world from annihilation through his special set of oddball skills.
Wall-E 2, Electric Boogaloo
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Africans will fight among each other for the dwindling resources. They won’t march on Europe in massive numbers that could overpower European defences.
https://mobile.twitter.com/KendraWrites/status/1174353585641074688
https://mobile.twitter.com/gaslitnation/status/1174417263459483652
What a douchebag.
I see a bit later - from the Kendra twitter thread - that we also got this in reply to Graves’ “but what about China” angle.
Greta: I am from Sweden a small country and there is the same argument, ‘why should we do anything just look at the US?’ Just so you know that is being used against you as well.
Children 1 - Adults 0 … although who are the children and who are the adults is open to question - Graves is an embarassment.
SE Texas getting hit with another 1,000 year flooding event. Over 40 inches has fallen near Houston.
https://twitter.com/EricHolthaus/status/1174711618594324481
And of course dump truck loads of cash will pour in to let them all rebuild in the exact same spot
I was involved with a resiliency effort with a coastal city a year or two ago and was surprised to see that “move shit inland” was actually mentioned as a long-term option. Sad that we’ve come to that, but I suppose it’s encouraging to know that some cities are considering it.
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