Maybe you should circle back to your first post in this discussion. To me it reads like “asking consumers to change their behavior is BS”.
I’m actually really curious to see how this plays out. I imagine it depends significantly on whether corporations find their employees to be more, less, or equally-productive. But if corps can cut operating costs by downsizing office space and more employees advocate for WFH due to reduced commute/etc., then I wouldn’t be surprised if at least some jobs make the long-term transition.
I hope so, anyway.
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Yeah I can tell you guys that logistics has had huge amounts of wfh going on for a long time… And it’s got significant upsides. Absolutely not just for the employees either.
Nope thats not what I meant at all. I think we mostly agree but seem to be caught up in s bizarre conversation fuelled by my poorly worded posts or just generally reading too much into posts. Sorry for the confusion.
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I don’t disagree that this is absolutely the case currently, but I’m hoping this will change if workers prove to be equally or more productive from home.
Awesome. GOP absolutely not the party of picking winners and losers.
The rent bills landed around the same time the Bureau of Land Management notified oil and gas drillers on federal lands of the procedures they would need to follow to get relief from paying royalties amid an oil market slump.
The administration has also expanded the drilling industry’s access to economywide government lending facilities and is contemplating ways to pump additional billions of dollars into the sector through tax breaks.
The government has been very successful in regulating environmental issues, including some emissions issues like NOx and SOx. 60 years ago we had rivers catching on fire because they were so polluted. I think it’s easy to lose perspective on stuff like this in the face of perpetual onslaught of incremental erosion of government oversight of business.
Exactly. The only solution comes from government when the problem is global.
That’s a good point. But it’s both - even with those other things like rivers catching fire. Y’all might not be old enough to remember but people used to think very little about dumping trash or their used motor oil. And which is chicken and which is egg is not obvious.
At any rate, the often expressed sentiment that individual action is not effective is wrong. Lots of cultural and behavioral changes have had big impacts without being led by government. And using “the government says it’s ok to crank my thermostat, and my neighbor gets to do it, so I’m doing it too” sucks.
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Yes, but it’s a bit more complicated than that. Governments have the ability to act collectively in ways that environmental protection requires and in ways that individual actions alone cannot effectively accomplish. Yet, in order to get governments to act, you need sufficient support from enough individuals to create the political will/pressure to force the government to take action. The cynicism that is growing amongst those of us who care about stuff like the environment is really troubling, because it leads to disengagement and more individualistic get-what’s-mine attitudes which only serve to benefit industries and trade organizations by diluting the strength of opposition voices. I don’t know what the solution is, I am becoming more and more cynical myself, but I’m as certain as one can be that anarchy isn’t going to get the job done.
I’m taking about personal responsibility. That’s anarchy. And, as you say, it’s required to influence government anyway.
The root of the problem is governments are the only ones who can plan for long tail events but they are incentivized to not do so. Imagine if the globe had put even half the money we’ve spent in the last three months to pandemic planning and the other half into climate change and green energy research .
New study out about how emissions were down 17% at peak lockdown.
Honestly I thought it would be more.
The last little argument itt happened because of a post about the reduction being 5.5%.
It definitely seems like the kind of thing that is hard enough to measure that there is a range of possible answers. In highly political areas that often leads to biased determinations as well.
It’s been a while but friendly reminder that the planet is still dying
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I don’t need a reminder, I’m living it. A single mid-high 80’s day here in June is unusual, but we’ve already had many and are about to go a week+ in that range.
That probably doesn’t sound like that big a deal, right? Well, I also had to turn on the heat this month (yes, June). And late last month, too. In a two week period I went from heat to AC to heat and back to AC again, at a time of the year when using either should be extremely rare.
All those bad things the experts said were going to happen? They’re happening.
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TBF the planet is going to live it’s just life on the planet that is going to die.
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Thank God, what a relief.
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