Climate Change and the Environment

I disagree with this. Boomers can truly fade this, GenX and younger can’t. If it was up to GenX and younger something would be getting done today.

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Yeah, Gen-X isn’t going to do a damn thing. It’s been super obvious this was going to be a huge problem even when I was a wee lad but Millennials are the first generation to really raise a fuss.

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Gen-X will go with the flow like they always have IMO. There aren’t enough of them to really dominate politics like the Boomers did anyway. Millennials are going to be in the drivers seat for a long time after the Boomers move on.

Plus let’s be real… the effects in the present get worse every year and that drives political change as much or more than demographics. My grandparents discovered that they believed in climate change because they live in SC a few miles from the coast.

As this gets worse the political will to actually do something will grow. The actual effort required to fix it technologically is actually deceptively small. Energy will need to get a bit more expensive and food will need to get a bit more expensive. The first 20% of effort usually yields 80% of the results. Doing that will buy us some more time, which we will use all of I have no doubt.

Yeah they are fading it by dieing before any consequenses. My point is they are not doing it because that would mean going back to one car, half the square footage of their current home and only havin meat once a month. Fuck that and fuck any politician who tries to sell that. I think thats the going to be the attitude of Gen X too until the first floor is flooded and is actually now a part of the atlantic ocean and not actually a flood anymore.

We can cut an awful lot of net carbon by putting a real revenue neutral carbon tax (200 a ton seems like a nice round number). There is an absolutely absurd amount of carbon being emitted to do stupid stuff like move cheap plastic shit from China on container ships, take cruises, and use planes instead of trains.

We also obviously need to move all commercial production to the daytime so that we can use solar panels to do it.

You’re going to be shocked how carbon efficient the economy can get when carbon = money. It’s going to be a lot of substitution. Lifestyles are going to get 10-15% worse not 50% worse… and the 10-15% will be stuff that it turns out we didn’t really care all that much about anyway.

I suspect someone figures out how to make a cow that emits less methane or how to grow a steak in a lab before people start eating meat once a month. Just saying that that’s needed is hugely counterproductive to fixing climate change because it demoralizes people actually. It’s practically a right wing talking point.

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Cow farting is actually carbon-neutral, at least if the cows are grazing.

I hope you are right bored and I’m a cynical bastard so the glass is always half empty for me. :slight_smile:

Not even practically a right-wing talking point–it is literally a right-wing talking point. “They’re coming for our trucks and our burgers because something something cow farts” has been on Fox News repeatedly as the GND movement has gained some momentum.

Oddly enough, Burger King’s Impossible Whopper commercials give me some hope–they have realized that meatless burgers could be a winning advertising strategy. Hopefully it continues to catch on.

Yeah I get it. Remember that there are two ways to attack this… reducing emissions and capturing carbon. Environmentalists like to pretend like capturing carbon isn’t an option, but that’s super silly. In real life we’re going to have to offset some % of emissions, and the better the capture technology is the better off we all are.

Just for starters it’s important to remember that the trees we plant currently are selected for their commercial wood productivity NOT for their ability to grow maximum size and capture as much carbon as possible. There are definitely species of trees that make shitty timber but grow much more rapidly than the commercial species we typically propagate. If carbon = money those trees are very viable indeed. Don’t be shocked if the biggest cash crop in the world is carbon in 2050.

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Jimmy Carter was the worst president in history because he suggested wearing a sweater instead of cranking up the heat.

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There’s probably a lot of potential for the market to bring about carbon capture and this is probably how it will happen.

Eh. We definitely shouldn’t be sending government money to support carbon capture overseas like this. Our carbon needs to be offset in the US, otherwise we lose any ability to make sure it’s really happening. I’m sorry but this is a great example of why globalism is a mixed bag.

I also suspect that the vast majority of what the article is talking about isn’t about carbon offsets irl. It’s about getting commodity export crops grown at the lowest possible price. If anything this kind of nonsense is fucking terrible for containing climate change. The way that developing countries harvest resources tends to be the nut low for the environment… which is why it’s so cheap to buy resources there.

One of the most pernicious things going on in global trade is developed nations exporting trash to poorer countries and importing goods built by laborers who are treated how we used to treat workers here in the 1800’s. It’s a way to side step progress and turn back the clock and it desperately needs a crack down.

We need to be taxing goods coming into the country for the carbon that was used to create them as well as transport them. Yes that’s going to do a number on global trade, but ocean shipping is one of the big areas we need to minimize to get carbon emissions under control.

And yes I’m getting to a point where I know a good bit about carbon emissions and where they actually come from. That’s because I’m a business dude™ by trade and I know a new industry (that’s going to be absolutely massive) when I see one. I absolutely plan to get rich helping to solve the carbon problem. It’s too early right this second, but I’m making sure that I have everything as in place as possible for when the gold rush starts.

Fuck MJ and bitcoin this is going to be 10000x bigger. I’m not exagerating, we’re talking 5-10% of GDP by 2035. I’ll be 50 then.

https://mobile.twitter.com/GretaThunberg/status/1204795860401434624

So, real talk. Empty my 401K. Live my best life for 15 years, try to help how I can in seeking tech advances to carbon issues and then Golden Gate it in 15 years if nothing is coming down the pike?

Let me know if you need an accountant

https://mobile.twitter.com/GretaThunberg/status/1204728167782588416

https://mobile.twitter.com/nowthisnews/status/1204797489817276416

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What’s “Golden Gate it”?

An insensitive reference to suicide by jumping off the golden gate bridge

Living at Golden Gate park would be a good idea of you’re broke on a warming planet.