Climate Change and the Environment

Us non-liberals have tried this ITT… and all we got was the usual acer/cold war/where’s the plans/utopia/outright trolling gibberish. Let’s see if anything has changed in the last week…

Yale Environment 360: You’ve spoken about the… idea that climate change and racial injustice share the same roots and have to be addressed together…

Elizabeth Yeampierre: Climate change is the result of… a long, long history that is centered on capitalism… to separate those things is impossible… there is no distinction between one and the other… you can’t treat one part of the problem without the other, because it’s so systemic.

Martin King: We must see now that the evils of racism, economic exploitation and militarism are all tied together… you can’t really get rid of one without getting rid of the others

OK, as requested… I’ve actually read this one (:ballot_box_with_check: check!), I’ve excerpted the relevant quotes (:ballot_box_with_check: check!), and here’s my take (:ballot_box_with_check: check!)…

Sabo: Ms Yeampierre is echoing the words of Mr King 50 years ago. She is echoing the words of Seattle 20 years ago: “Teamsters and Turtles”. She is saying the same thing as the non-liberal UnStuckers of today: “Capitalism and racism are conjoined twins inexorably linked”.

My take is that above is correct. Life is not ordering off a menu. And that trying to solve any one of these problems in isolation is fools mission necessarily doomed to failure. My take is that we are currently on this fools mission IRL, and unless we try something else, and immediately, human life on earth is doomed.

So, this week, which door will us UnStuckers choose to open ???/?

  1. The liberals will finally “groc” what the non-liberals are getting at. No ‘rigorous debate’ breaks out… but at least us UnStuckers aren’t talking past each other anymore.

  2. A ‘rigorous debate’ does indeed break out, where the liberal UnStuckers argue that Ms Yeampierre, Mr King, and the non-liberal UnStuckers got it all wrong -vs- the non-liberal UnStuckers argue that the liberals got it all wrong.

  3. Another week of acism/where’s the proposals/cold war/utopias/outright trolling gibberish.