This is afactual bullshit.
This crap spread around tankie Twitter like two months ago. You need to do some basic reading
Iâm not on Twitter, I must have gotten my tankie instructions somewhere else
Yeah itâs the same horseshit though. For starters, korea wasnt divided unilaterally by the USA. It was divided by the USA and Soviets. If dividing Korea somehow instigated the Korean War, the Soviets would bear responsibility for that too (not to mention, you know, the massive amount of material support they gave NK to invade)
Anyways NK and SK were in very similar economic situations after the war. Both sides were devastated. One recovered, one didnât. Turned out a repressive communist dictatorship wasnât awesome.
Iirc SK struggled for a long time after as well
Right but thatâs kind of the point. Attributing the results to the economic structure and ignoring the global environment, particularly the actions of the US before, during, and after the war, is exactly why you canât just sort the Koreas by modern GDP and conclude âcapitalism winsâ
(Tapping at my original post like the sign on the bus)
The soviets literally helped plan the damn invasion dude. The soviets then helped China get involved. The USA didnât instigate the war. The war was instigated by Kim with the support of the Soviets who thought SK was too weakened by the years long insurgency they had been funding in SK and that the USA wouldnât intervene because they didnât intervene in the Chinese Revolution.
The Korean War is an example of Soviet warmongering, not American. Itâs tankie bullshit to say otherwise. Period.
These things donât just happen in a vacuum. Hamas didnât just wake up one day and decide to attack Israel with no provocation either.
No one claimed that it did. The existence of context does not support your assertion that the USA instigated the war
And re: communism vs socialism in the peninsula and more generally -
I had forgotten this, but North Korea was actually much better off after the war than the South. Once the south got their shit together in the 70s/80s, that changed rapidly. The idea that NK was bombed into being an economic disaster is a fantasy invented by tankies
And âgetting their shit togetherâ had nothing to do with the US paying them to support our war in Vietnam. Again, you canât just sort the Koreas by modern GDP and conclude âcapitalism good communism badâ
Slow?
Environmental destruction is a lot faster under socialism. Not many veto points.
As far as the broader point, would people prefer to live in capitalist South Korea or socialist North Korea?
The scale is larger with capitalism.
Tell that to the three gorges dam or Beiging air pollution.
South Korea getting its shit together in the 80âs was a socialist turn. Itâs when SK started having the government interfere with the economy and enact the protectionism that allowed its industry to develop.
Excellent book on the subject
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It did not. Having stable governance allowed for business to flourish.
âAgain, you canât just sort the Koreas by modern GDP and conclude âcapitalism good communism badââ
Well thereâs everywhere else too. Itâs not like Korea is the only example here lol.
When did leftists start using right wing nut jobs of socialism?
Oh itâs because all the actually socialist countries failed, are shitholes, or enacted enough market reforms that they are no longer socialists
Do you think that makes sense?