Bump This Thread When Jimmy Carter Outlives Someone Nonterrible

Of course, but if your thesis is the popular one that unlike Maradona Pele didn’t carry a team to WC victory more or less singlehanded (lol at that idea anyway) you’re missing necessary data.

And I don’t believe you ever saw Cruyff or Pele play, but still have an opinion on their merits.

Fine as long as you’re ok with some annoying person in 30 years time who never saw him play insisting that Messi was overrated.

That will be less of a problem. In the future anyone who wanted die on this hill could be shown hours and hours of Messi GOATness in full HD. Can’t do that with Pele. The footage doesn’t exist.

There’s certainly enough to say that Pele was an all time great, even without the testimony of people who played with him and against him, and it doesn’t need to be in full HD for that to be obvious.

Small story

Went to Barcelona a few years back. Caught a 10pm local time kickoff. Wife watches very little soccer

About 10 minutes in she’s “who’s that he’s so good”

It was Messi obv

I think having non sports people being able to instantly realize this guy is on another level is pretty fun.

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https://twitter.com/monicalewinsky/status/1609037663620968449?s=46&t=cn1L4Dle4zZfEfd4BgZmPg

https://twitter.com/monicalewinsky/status/1609037666548604928?s=46&t=cn1L4Dle4zZfEfd4BgZmPg

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I guess it’s this one

https://twitter.com/pointerofficial/status/1609402435751092225?s=46&t=bbBsZpm7F_3KFLnfGEEU6Q

I hope I don’t get milkshake ducked on this one.

this sucks

He’s not dead yet.

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I know this whole scene is kinda douchey and toxic, but I’ll give him the benefit of doubt because he seemed like a decent guy. Not even the tiniest bit surprised he went out doing something like this.

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Holy shit, I had never heard of him until today and it had nothing to do with this. I was watching a video of a guy ranking the free streaming services and he talked about one of them (Roku Channel?) that bought Quibi’s library. One of the Quibi shows he mentioned was Elba vs. Block.

Just eerie that I only first hear of Block this afternoon and now this.

There was an Amazon series about the making-of for one of the Gymkhana things. I enjoyed that more than the videos themselves. Worth watching imo.

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My husband knew him through another friend of ours. From sitting in a silent sports bar in Utah (near the university) during the Rose Bowl loss then subsequent horrible MNF debacle, to hearing about this when we got home, we aren’t having a good night.

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Former footballer and manager Gianluca Vialli has died of pancreatic cancer at the age of 58. He was definitely one of the more likeable personalities in football.

RIP :pensive:

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“He toiled for two straight days, forcing himself to stay awake by telling himself: “In one hour I can make 30 blank documents. If I sleep for an hour 30 people will die.””

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Think he belongs here

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Don’t know much about his bio but a goat of goats for :guitar:

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yup. maybe @Rivaldo will share his favorites

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that Stevie Wonder cover will Tal Wilkenfeld

got to 2nd base with a girl named Tali once at jewish summer camp Goat

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