Bump this thread every time the biden administration releases people from the border concentration camps

I could be nicer and hold your hand, but choose not to.

The “reality of the situation” you refer to is that they children have broken the law. That’s them being criminals, whether you think it or you or I or anyone else wish to think of them as criminals. That’s why they’re in police custody. Because they broke the law. Not because they are unaccompanied minors. Minors go around unaccompanied in the US all the time.

Preposterous. Biden absolutely doesn’t want to deport these kids. What makes you think that?

You’ve stumbled upon my bailiwick, as the foster system is my area of expertise. The federal government has no real established role in child welfare (other than giving the states billions of dollars for complying with ASFA). The states are the guarantors of child safety, and this recent massive influx of unaccompanied minors is somewhat of an issue of first impression. That, coupled with the Trump administration’s failure (intentional) to provide for an appropriate safety apparatus and/or to pay the already-armored states a bunch of money to act as a partner, has made this very much an unfortunate series of circumstances.

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Yes, but you are assuming the states (Texas, really?) have been willing partners. I have seen no evidence to suggest they’ve helped. If they have things would/should go much much more quickly.

I never said anything about what I thought was possible. Lol.

I mean, it doesn’t violate the laws of physics for these children to be treated humanely, but it’s not possible that the Biden Administration is going to do it. Yeah, better than Trump…the Dems win!..but still not humanely.

This is exactly wrong. If I see a bunch of child wandering around in the desert I am calling child welfare and/or the police. This is a legal requirement for me; I would hope a moral requirement for anyone else.

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No it refers to large numbers of children crossing at once and the moral duty we have to see that they are placed safely.

This is the dishonest bullshit I’m talking about. You can disagree with me all you want, and honestly that’s fine, but this is just lazy bullshit from someone who refuses to acknowledge that anyone else could have a reasonable opinion different from them… which is especially funny given you referencing doctor’s arrogance earlier.

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You are completely ignorant of the law.

You say large number because of lazy bullshit. It’s not a large number. It’s a small number compared to the number of children cared for by social services in the US.

Blatant dishonesty.

Thousands of children. Seems large to me.

There are 340000000 people in this country and 672000 children in foster care. It’s a large number of people in a High School gym, but it’s not a large number of children to place in care in the US.

Do you just envision a pack of 8 year olds wandering around in the desert? I’m going to go out on a limb and say that isn’t how this works.

That is because the states are set up to place young white black brown American kids as soon as can be done safely. Sometimes there are kids sleeping in placement centers for a few days or longer when volume surges. I don’t think of these temporary unfortunate placements as “wanting more kids in cages.”

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So very very ignorant. Depending on the state, and depending on the time, and depending on the child’s needs placement can be extremely difficult.

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I don’t think many people are evil. Systems cause evil things to happen. They don’t want kids in cages. Even most of the Trumpers don’t want kids in cages. They won’t let them go to foster care or to their family in the US because they are not legally allowed to be in the country and they don’t want to violate immigration laws.

Do you not believe the official reports? I’ve heard that they’ve had thousands of unaccompanied minors located in recent days.

If they were not placed by the government they would probably be wandering, no?

I personally know this is FOS. I liaison with state governments involved with placing children. Immigration status of children or placements is EXPRESSLY not considered. You may want to brush up on your SIJS studies before wading deeper into this riptide.

How many days are these kids spending in jail?

Unaccompanied doesn’t mean unaccompanied by adults. They aren’t with their parents but the fact they can make it to the border in one piece tells me it shouldn’t be any more dangerous for them once they are in the US should it?

Lol. They are not in the custody of state governments, are they? Self-own. The immigration status of these kids is absolutely the issue here with border control, right?

I mean seriously, Biden admin just let the kids go into custody of the state governments. State and local governments take care of lots of children. The federal government doesn’t (beyond funding mechanisms). That would be smart. Why wouldn’t they do that? (because of immigration law, duh.)