Boomers, Generational Wealth, and Inequality

Stevie Wonder is black. I’m fine with excluding every single non-white Boomer honestly… even if some of them don’t deserve it.

Ok well played. :+1:t5:

It doesn’t work like that.

It does if you’re an “entitled millennial”. ;)

Such a fun game.

I missed this the first time around, but “Boomers didn’t have to consider climate change” is an interesting take.

I’ve been pretty clear about what I see Boomerism as. It’s a very specific set of cultural beliefs that has extremely wide adoption in people born between 1945-1964. These cultural beliefs are much less strong among POC’s born during that period (although I bet the greed and selfishness are good items made it through for many) and they generally voted straight Democratic tickets. The delta between the white Boomer experience and the POC Boomer experience was completely insane.

Actually I don’t think they are. One of the key learnings from the introduction of the internet into humanity is that humans GENERALLY double down on their ideas when aggressively confronted by people with opposing views. I dont think any broadly selected group is good at introspection. That’s a failing that is part of the human condition, as is the “dig your heels in when challenged” instinct.

What makes the issue particularly accute with boomers is that they needed to change their behavior and thinking to stop REALLY BIG problems, like the destruction of the global environment, and they couldn’t do it. Does that mean that, say, the Greatest Generation would have done it? Not necessarily. But boomers were the ones with the chance. And they blew it - and for what? A society that is objectively worse for their kids and their grandchildren. Disposable junk consumerism. Boomers own that failure. Deserves ain’t got nothin’ to do with it.

Sorry JT we’re not going extinct. It’s certainly still on the table, but it’s still very unlikely assuming humanity wakes the fuck up. Thankfully it seems to be.

Your problem is that your expectations are too high. The bar is not going extinct and we’re going to clear it. That doesn’t mean it’s going to be a good time, particularly for the people unlucky enough to be at the bottom of the heap.

If we continue to act like the Boomers do though we’re absolutely 100% fucked and will be drawing dead as a species by the end of the century.

I mean, you’re pretty quick to give credit to the Boomers for a music scene created largely by folks from the Silent Generation, even after insisting that all generations are equal. It’s a bit odd.

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It was the combination of social change and drugs, man, not the generation.

BS called boomers a generation who produced nothing of merit, remember. Well, some boomer musicians were lucky enough to have had their formative years at the right time.

In the spirit of this conversation I gotta say Stevie doesn’t own that song anymore.

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The other option was Donald Trump.

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I think the K-shaped experience of the pandemic is extremely instructive. Covid is going to be the template for how climate change will experienced generally. Scraps and misery for most people. Opportunity for the well off to capitalize. It sucks but I can’t see it developing any other way except for complete societal collapse.

This is where employing boomer’s eternal optimism is a strength.

Is apathy a privilege?

Boomers are the WOAT, atleast the war generation gave us drivers sweets and toffee… These boomers can’t even bring you the coffee mint that’s never eaten.

#bastards

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Yup can confirm that I am actively monitoring the opportunities to capitalize on fixing climate change. Not in a malicious way, I would just like to pay my bills making the world a better place. That would feel nice.

I’m selfish and greedy too, I just take responsibility for the fact that I’m selfish and greedy unlike Boomers. A Boomer would tell you that they were looking at those opportunities because they just wanted to give back. I’m fully cognizant of the fact that I want to get rich and sleep well at night too.

Truth.

Bolded is a great punchline. This could definitely be worked into a George Carlin kind of bit.

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It’s not too late. Again your problem is that you expected more and didn’t care that you were definitely always going to be disappointed.

And for what it’s worth COVID is the ultimate example of Boomers leading the world off a cliff. Millennials in this country have exactly one real political leader in the game right now and she’s already the best in the game. If anything Gen Z is better than us.

Everyone is waking up on climate change world wide right now. I know you don’t want it to work because in your mind the only way to solve anything is personal sacrifice, but that’s simply inaccurate and actually an example of a very successful bit of corporate propaganda. Personal sacrifice is not something that humans have ever done without their backs to a wall (which is why the Boomers have never sacrificed… there was always someone else they could force to do the sacrificing for them), but the wall is right behind us now.

I like you JT you’re like the really angry/sad/scared voice in my head that is telling me to panic every time I read about what’s going on in the world. I have to damn near physically force myself to zoom out and look at the whole picture… and realize that it’s changing, not as quickly as I would like, but changing. I also know enough about history to be sure that once we start moving it’ll be really fast (because we will have waited until the last minute because nobody was going to make any real changes until the wall was at their back ldo).

Just know it’s not quite as bad as you think it is. Some of it absolutely is, and nearly all of it is when looked at from a micro perspective, but from the macro perspective it’s not quite as dire.

Some of them did. Why not be factually accurate on a board that I perceive to value intellectual honesty?

Exaggeration is an American pastime and it’s catching up. The dissonance that hucksters like Trump pedal comes from somewhere.

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Come on the last politician who asked them to sacrifice anything was Carter and they ran him out of town on a rail. It was literally their first definable political act. Since then it’s been nothing but kicking the can down the road and lowering the taxes on the rich.

The Boomers who were willing to sacrifice settled for making personal consumption sacrifices in lieu of doing anything different where it counted: at work. Even when they sacrificed it was all about their own feelings of guilt.

And when I say sacrifice I’m talking about doing things like paying higher taxes to fully fund pensions, building new infrastructure, or doing literally anything but going with the flow and assuming it was going to end up somewhere good.