Biden thread III: Enjoy your retirement

I am well aware he was already going to do this stuff with no consequences, it just now looks far more acceptable. It has massive ramifications in the propaganda out there. Not even to mention - if Biden was gonna pull this kind of shit (and no one will convince me this doesn’t eventually happen regardless of trump winning or not), he should’ve pulled the trigger on this far earlier, caused a big ordeal about it and got bipartisan support for blocking this “loophole” (that I am not convinced even legally exists) behind him so the exact thing we’re about to experience couldn’t happen. It’s shameless and craven and I don’t see a single thing to celebrate about because it’s just so over the top cynical already even by the most charitable explanations and only worse things are to come. And it’s not like this even protects hunter biden at all! Who by all accounts is a massive piece of shit failson who deserves whatever happens to him! It’s literally pointless and a clear middle finger to anyone and everyone that ever held water for this clown or the clown party he represents.

The “our system is completely rotten and broken” folks should be cheering this, because it’s another thing that makes it very transparent. Problem is, lots of voters like it the way it is, apparently.
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Yeah, this.

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I will be honest and say I haven’t followed any of the Hunter Biden stories and only have the most vague understanding of what this is all about. That said, I kinda hope that Trump goes after him anyway and challenges the validity of these capricious and blanket pardons in court. Seems like a power that needs a little curtailing.

Trump being famous for wanting to curtail the power of the presidency.

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Trump already pardoned a bunch of his cronies! Why is everyone acting as though Biden is the one who broke a precedent?

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oh come on

Wasn’t he basically auctioning off pardons behind the scenes?

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trump lies all the time, pardons his criminal pals, and father in law for hiring a hooker to seduce his brother in law, sends video to sister, to get back at him for squealing about the other crimes he was committing is now ambassador to france

so of course biden’s pardon got 100x the attention and outrage and BUT HE LIED. and mocking nobody is above the law (right after trump was declared above the law)

it’s just all bullshit from people

even conceding the point he probably shouldn’t have lied the whole time and just deflected it but he thought he was running again and it’s best politically at the time to just lie about something like that and do it later anyway

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People HATE hypocrisy. They generally prefer Trump’s open corruption. And people who wanted to pretend that Biden was some bastion of morality have had that undermined. There’s something for everyone to hate here.

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drawing any kind of comparison like “oh trump did x so much worse” as if it matters is not a very clear statement and I’m not sure what point it is trying to even make. That this is ok? it clearly isn’t. That we should have just expected this despite the literal party line being for the last several years that this is a political witchunt and a nothingburger and he would abide by what the law decides? Ok I can almost buy that. At the very least though I would consider two things - who this benefits (literally only the bidens) and at what cost. There are well known theories in ethics and sociology that deal with corruption and it’s generally well accepted that the more visible and tolerated public corruption is, the easier it spreads. I could grant that the corruption is already probably far too deep to do anything about even before this happened, but it certainly doesn’t help, and I absolutely don’t buy people saying suddenly that this is fine when it’s been said for so many years that it is NOT fine.

Even if you dont buy all that, consider the deflating effect it will certainly have on anyone that fully bought into the bullshit and went around knocking on doors, let alone the people that vote. I’m bewildered that anyone can see this as anything but a big negative.

Trump is full of hypocrisy come on now. There’s no logical reason for this; the standard for Trump and democrats is just different in our media and prevailing culture

It’s the typical Republicans hate hypocrisy when they aren’t the hypocrites. If they had any shame Gaetze would be in jail already.

I don’t understand the fuss. If he didn’t pardon his son, I’d have thought even less of him than I do now. What kind of father lets his kid go to jail when he can prevent it? Especially when the charges are questionable and brought by an incompetent/corrupt AG that you put in charge in the first place

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the incoming administration promised to fuck with hunter even more. the nutjob fbi director to be made it his goal to go after hunter, i’m pretty sure he stated this publicly.

the sentencing in all likelihood would have been probation which gives the trump administration numerous ways to fuck with hunter for years of his life over little shit.

it’s pretty clear that the election changed Biden’s mind and that he would have let the charges run their course if Harris won. i dont see how that is confusing to anyone.

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it’s not. anyone who is wringing their hands over this is either a maga collaborator or a huge shit-for-brains, period the end.

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If I was Biden I would pass a broad pardon for Baron Trump as well just for the lols

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So, what’s the over under on number of Republican state and local prosecutors who have already started investigations into Hunter?

Ummmm… hate to point this out, but it’s completely apparent by now that this does not matter in the absolute slightest. See …err… all of the right wing.

Nothing matters, and obviously the right would find any reason to be faux outraged by the pardon, but in hindsight Biden and the WH probably shouldn’t have said “no pardon no pardon no pardon no pardon” and just said something like that should it come up, they will evaluate the circumstances of the case and the legal and contextual arguments for and against a pardon, and make a decision on those elements, like they do for every individual. Or some such mumbo jumbo.

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He should probably preemptively issue blanket pardons to a lot of other people this next administration could go after. Except Garland. I hope that MFer ends up in jail

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