Bailout / Stimulus Discussion (Hints Missed & Shartz Fired)

He was also sure the eDems were going to impeach on Russia and Nancy and Nadler were genius leaders who were plotting carefully to do the right thing.

He also legit thought there was a real chance they would impeach Barr, Pompeo AND Pence.

Nunnehi’s brand is being absurdly wrong and wishcasting that the same people who keep sound the same things will suddenly do the opposite.

But I’m the moron who keeps arguing with the same dude saying the same thing wishing he’ll wake to and realize it’s the opposite.

@cuserounder Motherfucker, nunnehi is NOT going to respond by accepting reality. 0.0% chance.
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(I won’t make you all scroll through my rant at myself.)

Because I’m actually a nice person and not some keyboard warrior, I’m just letting you know one last time that you’ve once again completely lied about my positions on impeachment(s) putting what you believe I think into your own words and then continuing to say that’s what I believe despite me telling you that’s not what I believe. I am nowhere near the only person you do this to. You are poison, dude. Seriously, introspect a little bit.

This is my way of telling you this was my last response about anything ever to you and I’m only doing it so you will stop pounding your keyboard toward me. If you want to continue to lie about everything I’ve said, or try to tell me what I mean that is 100 percent opposite of what I’ve actually said, that’s on you. There are plenty of people here who will believe you who say the exact same things about my positions that I have never held. They are not true no matter how much you want them to be. I guess what I’m saying if you want me to put it in not so nice terms that totally fit into this discussion, it’s, ‘I’ve sacrificed you to the trolley problem’ because you’ve basically now created a void for yourself where you no longer exist in my world because of your continued insistence to not ‘get it’ about anything anyone says to you that contrasts with the way you feel about yourself.

The last piece I of advice I would give you as the trolley is bearing down on you is to deflate yourself a bit. Your ego is out of control. Don’t bother responding, as I said, I will not respond to you ever again. I don’t use the ignore feature anymore, other than the manual ignore feature aka the scroll wheel.

I don’t really buy that those are the only scenarios. At the very least, there’s a #1.5, Get $1T now, win Senate and Presidency, second relief bill is delayed until March or later because of total Republican obstruction to anything, and the Dems dally with not nuking the filibuster for a while, which seems about equally likely as #1. Angling for more money now is a hedge against that, as well as being politically savvy: capitulating fully to the Republican plan looks weak, and it gives Republicans all the credit, while getting them to come up somewhat is more plausibly a win for both sides.

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I am truly baffled by the Republican “strategy” here. It is obviously in their best interest to just go along with the Democrats bill and take credit for it. They obviously DGAF about the deficit, absolutely no idea what they’re thinking here. Sure seems they’re just really good at being evil and not so good at the actual doing politics thing.

They don’t want to admit that the government giving people money can make the lives of the recipients better. They need that lie, or it undoes a massive house of cards.

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Maybe they want to make it easier to obstruct next year by refusing to set a precedent for bipartisan cooperation that isn’t on their terms.

Neither of those explanations is right. They have no principles and no shame. This is a slam dunk political decision and they’re blowing it. They’re going to obstruct no matter what, and they absolutely can and should approve money now even if they plan to tell all the poors to fuck off and die come November 4th.

The more plausible explanation is that they’re high on their own supply. And very stupid.

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Okay but is it an “and then” scene or do we find out that’s been happening the whole time

And do we end on the secret twist that they’re the same person or do we save that for the sequel

Stop this, it’s not even remotely funny and you know better.

From their perspective, they have had strong success with an “obstruct everything” heuristic, so they probably won’t change until they face electoral defeats that can’t be blamed on things like Trump being an idiot.

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lol assuming there’s a strategy here is ludicrous. They have no idea what they’re doing and are functionally completely leaderless right now.

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For like 12 years they’ve done nothing but blindly mash the raise button every time it was their turn. The Dems have tank folded time and time again. Why would they do anything other than keep raising until they get called? Trump’s EO is the part that’s crazy and makes no sense, the rest is just their go-to strategy that’s been absolutely obliterating the game for 12 years.

Revisionist history isn’t going to work here. We all remember you breathlessly predicting the inevitable impeachment from the Mueller probe, even telling us they had a masterful strategy and that the WAAFers were wrong when we predicted that they were going to get steam rolled on all the subpoenas and such. You kept setting deadlines for things to happen, then moving them.

Then you predicted that there was a legit chance they’d impeach Barr, Pompeo and Pence. We told you zero chance, you swore you were absolutely correct and we were too WAAF or pessimistic or whatever.

Your track record speaks for itself.

Fuck you. I’m obviously a moron for ever reaching out to you and being nice and checking in on you. Go fuck yourself.

I might need to use a one time on this being true, but since you’re basically wrong about every prediction you’ve ever made, it’s not likely.

Yeah I’m not going to let you off the hook when you keep spewing revisionist history and horrendous strategy ideas.

Go to hell, asshole. You’ve been consistently the dumbest reg on this site, and having to read your delusional optimism time and time again as you never learn from being wrong repeatedly is a cancer on the discourse here. Fuck off, please, for the sake of everyone here who actually understands reality.

Sweet Jesus, please, let this be true. Go back into lurking hibernation mode, for the sake of us all.

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He did not take the L and move on

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When did he ever?

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that’s some awful poker analogy

Are people in any state receiving the magic EO unemployment? If so, how long is it supposed to last?

So, no?

It claims they’re being received in 4 states as of right now, then the article expressly says only one state is receiving it right now. It predicts most people will have to wait several weeks and they’ve only sent 3 weeks of $300 to the states that have been authorized. Almost no one will receive any of this before September 1 but they might before October 1. I think based on the amount of states that have been approved, there might be 6 weeks worth of money, though they’re raiding FEMA to pay for it right after a major hurricane.

The states that haven’t been authorized to receive it are:

Delaware, D.C. (not sure what the status was there for the $600), Florida, Hawaii, Illinois, Kansas, Minnesota, Nebraska, Nevada, New Jersey, North Dakota, Oregon, South Carolina, South Dakota, Wisconsin, and Wyoming