Bailout / Stimulus Discussion (Hints Missed & Shartz Fired)

Oh i fully agree they are going to cave on it but it is literally throwing bodies into the capitalism furnace for the billionaire class.

I thought that’s what we started doing on June 1.

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She’s doing it for the power, which she derives from the big money donations she gets for looking out for the rich while offering up token efforts for the poor.

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Congratulations, you just signed off on millions of cases and tens of thousands of deaths.

I didn’t sign off on anything. The businesses are open already and they’re just hoping that gets put in. Businesses aren’t going to be less safe than they are now if the liability protection goes in, they just won’t go further with safety than they are now. If I’m a worker and I don’t feel safe, no effing way am I releasing them from liability by signing an additional piece of paper. I doubt anything like this will even be allowed without a company waiver as well, so if a worker refuses, liability protection does not activate and the worker can’t be fired for refusing to sign the waiver.

Again, it’s crucial for you to understand that my position is there is no way they should be having this as a negotiation point with the $600/eviction moratorium stuff. It’s a mistake to have some kind of ‘small’ package with them playing off of each other and those two things at minimum need to be on a clean bill. I also think it’s possible a GOP concession could be providing liability caps instead of immunity.

Prediction: The $600 stays in and the GOP uses it as a wedge between the working poor, the working from home middle class, and all the lucky duckies who lost their jobs.

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Lol

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Clean bill or fuck off. My final offer would be we’ll pass a clean bill on the 600/wk and you pass a clean bill on your liability, and we’ll give each other a floor vote. But it isn’t going to pass the House.

Then lol at me when all the eDems vote yay for their corporate bosses.

Yeah it’ll be a wedge for sure.

I actually like your idea of a clean liability protection bill and the clean $600/eviction moratorium as separate clean bills. I like that a whole lot.

Can’t find it now but someone is sponsoring $2,000 per month per person retroactive to March. Yup they want to send us each $12,000 now and then $2,000 a month.

Woo hoo let’s gogogogogogogo

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That’s an amazingly poorly framed quote after seeing a different story about this. Here’s his actual quote:

“They have made some concessions which we appreciated. We made some concessions which they appreciated,” Schumer said. Still, he added that the sides “are still far away on a lot of issues.”

Here’s what Meadows said after the meeting:

Meadows told reporters that the concessions by the White House were “far more substantial than the concessions that had been made by the Democrats.”

Ed Markey, I think

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Yes by all means let’s take Mark Meadows at his word lol.

I actually believe him here, because he didn’t frame it as ‘they won’t take yes for an answer’. The article goes on to say that Trump said this:

Asked in an interview with Gray TV whether people should continue to get $600 in extra unemployment aid, Trump replied, “Yeah. I want to get them – I want to get them a lot.”

Tell him Markey’s plan fits that bill and get him accidentally behind it.

Yep. I’m sure this has nothing to do with his very close primary election coming up in 4 weeks.

https://twitter.com/SenMarkey/status/1290785692486950912

Hey look, Captain Fuckface is obviously desperate to get something passed.

“We passed our bill. We have nothing to discuss unless and until the Senate passes theirs.”

So I pulled the 24,900 EIDL and now think about going back for more since I was approved for much higher even if means collateral. My acct said the collateral piece is a formality and he thinks the odds of forgiveness is going to be high, even on the EIDL. He says park the extra $$ someplace safe as emergency fund and if it’s not forgiven then pay it back. Basically make a bet on 2% of the amount (assuming that is net of interest paid- interest earned). So essentially net $1,000 if held for a year to gain $50,000.

Even if I have a 20% shot on forgiveness I’m getting 10:1 equity. I also have the upside of the extra liquidity if my work world stays in the shitter.

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Snap take the max imo

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Yup that’s what I should have done originally. 3.75% money at the worst.

Yea 30 years @ 3.75% worst case scenario is essentially free money. I only qualified for 5.2K and it was a no brainer.