Dems have been pretty clueless about race and they’ve not put any effort into winning over Latino voters. In a lot of ways, the right and alt-right have been a lot more strategic: we’ve seen how guys like George Zimmerman and Nick Fuentes can become honorary members of the White Guy club.
I think it was you who was constantly pointing out during the campaign that bidens camp out zero effort into capturing the Latino vote and yeah it sure played out like that. It’s possible a good candidate could win some of these people back.
Majority report actually had a guest on the yesterday talking about all this and how the demographic changes were an illusion
Latinos just don’t vote as a block. It’s impossible to go after the vote like you’re going to get much more than half of it if you’re lucky. 60% is better than Dems should expect and intentionally going after voters on the basis of them being Latino is going lose some Latino voters even as it might gain some.
I mean, damn, “Latino”, is not even one group. People from Guatemala have little more in common with people from Argentina than they do with people from Canada. And people whose families have been here for 3 generations have more in common with white Americans than they do with recent immigrants.
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Black people aren’t really a homogenous group either but they still vote Democratic in overwhelming numbers because the Dems have spent decades laying down groundwork.
People on the left seem to think they can get Latino voters and turn Texas blue just by pointing out how terrible Trump was, and they’re going to be in for a shock.
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Democrats should chase specifically the Mexican-American vote.
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Even when the Democrats spend (tens of) millions on ads and voter outreach, some conservatives shrewdly swoop in and buy an entire Spanish language talk radio station for $350k and fire a left of center host (even though he had the top rated show on the channel).
Conservatives as a whole just seem so much better at identifying leverage points and investing hard in them.
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Black people voted Republican until the civil rights laws and the Republican Southern Strategy. It was one decade tops for the transition and it was not something the Dems have an opportunity to recreate by themselves with Latinos. Maybe the Republicans will help and segregate schools based on the national origin of your grandparents.
If you think you can get 85% of the Latino vote by ? ? ?, you’re mistaken.
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The one thing that gives me hope in all this is that anecdotally it seems like while 2nd, 3rd generation immigrants lean conservative, they don’t go in as much for the insane Trumpism brand.
Although I know some one this forum have said the Vietnamese community is all in on Trumpism. And Cubans obviously.
But most of the Asian, Hispanic, and Muslim immigrants I know or know of seem to realize on some level that Trumpism/great replacement stuff doesn’t end well for them.
See you’re framing this as though the Republicans did a bunch of things and black voters rushed to the Democratic Party. My point is that the Dems have been building up a ground game in these communities for decades. Latino voters are very winnable, but they’re not going to vote Dem unless the Dems put some work in. “Republicans are meanies” isn’t going to be enough.
With the Vietnamese it’s like it is with the Cubans. The Vietnamese who came here were fleeing Communism. The first generation or two has been Republican, but the kids are not necessarily so, and that’s part of why Orange County has turned blue - in addition to a higher percentage of Latinos.
Ok, but Black party identification as Democrat peaked in 1968. Latinos are won by the Democrats at the moment. Latinos were 66/33 for Biden. They don’t have the unifying issue of Civil Rights the way Blacks did in the 60s and earlier. It’s nuts to think that Dems going after the Latino vote is going to get 85% percent of the vote (about what it is for Black voters).
Maybe Dems should go after like median income people or something like that. But, nah.
Turns out that white people don’t have a monopoly on being assholes.
Republicans had success with outreach towards the growing number of evangelical Latinos. I would look for ways to drive wedges between Catholics and evangelicals and come up with a narrative for why Catholic Latinos should vote Democratic while evangelical Latinos should vote Republican.
Evangelical Latinos are a fast growing group and I’m sure they are more Republican than Catholic Latinos. Guess what? They also have more money than Catholic Latinos.
Yeah, I never said 85% would happen, but it’s still a large and very winnable demographic for Dems if they ever bother going after these voters.
I think 2016 was the high water mark for Latino Dem % no matter what. Trump’s rhetoric was scary enough, and a new sudden unknown was scary enough, that Hillary could somewhat plausibly sell “something, something, US citizen Latinos end up in concentration camps.”
By 2020 it became clear that Trump had no intention of doing any such thing and that he in fact loved the “goods ones” that supported him. So US citizen Latinos could feel free to be as deplorable in their voting as anyone else without worrying it would backfire as to their own personal safety.
Trump did a couple points better than Romney among Latinos in 2016.
Well they have tried speaking Spanish.
Don’t forget their insistence on using “latin-x”!