About Moderation (old original thread)

[BusinessGenius]

Hapoy Friday

[eyebooger]

@hokie

but it does sometimes seem impossible to lower the temperature. Like the bad blood has simmered too long and there’s no going back.

It’s really unfortunate.

A lot of good posters have left or post much less frequently because of this.

[BusinessGenius]

It seems to me like the Ukraine threads are a proxy war for the old teams/powers

[alex]

Yea so just let it all out innit. Trying to moderate it out of existence has clearly failed.

One of the first things we did when we moved to Exiled was celebrate finally being able to talk shit on David, Mat, Mason, etc without fear of retribution.

[CaffeineNeeded]

It has not failed. It’s been so much better. The usual suspects have come back for some reason from their modless utopia to stir up shit again.

[jmakin]

there’s been very little squabbling for months now. Wonder what changed.

people used to make claims at the site dying back when I still had access to that data, it was never true, I really doubt it is now.

[BusinessGenius]

@alex

Yea so just let it all out innit. Trying to moderate it out of existence has clearly failed.

One of the first things we did when we moved to Exiled was celebrate finally being able to talk shit on David, Mat, Mason, etc without fear of retribution.

But David, Mat, Mason, et al were not there.

Who is it that you can’t talk shit about without retribution here?

[alex]

There’s less squabbling because there’s a lot less content and people lol

[anon38180840]

Is there actually less on topic posting, or has the signal to noise ratio just improved?

[j8i3h289dn3x7]

@CaffeineNeeded

It has not failed. It’s been so much better. The usual suspects have come back for some reason from their modless utopia to stir up shit again.

Yeah this. We went literally months without any issues. Then the Captains clearly got bored with their own forum and all coincidentally decided to come back at the same time.

[BusinessGenius]

Maybe there’s trouble in their little utopia.

[hokie]

@goofyballer, carrying a response to your post over here because it seems like more of a Friday discussion now.

I agree that it’s relatively boring, but the entire purpose of his posting style is to shut discussion down. He admits it himself in this post, that what microbet was doing was wrong, implying that he had to come correct it.

NK fought a war of aggression and attempted to subjugate a whole other set of people. The consequences of a full scale modern war are their fault, and can’t be used to blame the USA for their lack of future growth. That what was what microbet was doing, which is absurd, and historically inaccurate besides.

Carry on

I don’t know if this is an issue that can be solved via moderation, so maybe this isn’t the right place, idk, but it would be pretty cool if this was the kind of place where a “pros and cons of US interventionalism” conversation could last more than a couple hours before turning into a proxy fight.

[jmakin]

what evidence do you have this is true? any admins care to verify?

[alex]

Purely anecdotal with the exception of noticing an obvious trend in poll participation, but I find it hard to imagine that most would disagree.

[econophile]

I post with a USB steering wheel

[hokie]

@goofyballer

You can dissect this post in an academic way, but certainly don’t point at it like “ this post is why we can’t have nice things” like it’s some kind of unique outlier.

Yea I agree, and that was actually part of what prompted me to write this post too:

@hokie

Bringing this post here to extract it from the Ukrapto thread since it’s more of a meta discussion, but it does sometimes seem impossible to lower the temperature. Like the bad blood has simmered too long and there’s no going back.

[BusinessGenius]

UP traffic is

• Higher
• Lower
• About the same
• Bastard

[econophile]

I don’t mean to single you out, but I don’t think continued use of the terms “Captains” to refer to a group of current and former posters is helpful. Just like I don’t think rehashing complaints about moderation by Wookie or other former mods is productive.

Sure there could be some special cases where this type of discussion could actually prove useful, but I think a good rule of thumb would be just not to make these types of posts.

[BusinessGenius]

I also don’t think JMan should be dredging up Wookie’s mistakes and insulting him for losing his rightful throne to a bunch of deplorables

[econophile]

I just don’t think bans and hiding posts are very effective tools in most cases for improving forum discourse