The fucking problem is, banning people without any process whatsoever. Do you not see why this is a problem?
Like, I get that this is a place for ideologues, which is why I rarely venture out into the fields that is the actual politics forum. But at least practice your fucking ideology.
For some reason I thought youâd stood down as mod?
I did. It just didnt take
This isnât an adult level comment.
The list of who cares includes you, @-d2_e4, myself, and others. I know this because weâve all taken the time to post regarding this kind of due process concerns ITT. There have also been other posts, whole threads, and still born RFCs regarding this issue too.
So⌠people care, you are among us caring people, and if a productive chat is to be had on this issue, I really feel we need to drop this ânobody caresâ negative anti-community attitude ASAP.
Mod actions should be logged.
We can revisit the topic of due process for permabans. (He hasnât been permaâed.)
Kel not being an angel doesnât justify kneeling on his head.
The problem is that a lot of âgoodâ posters left because of the way you treat the âbadâ posters.
Yeah, they left because I was too mean to Kelhus. jlawok.gif
No, they left in part because youâre an asshole to a lot of people.
They didnât leave bc anyone was mean, they left due to the bannings.
As if the bannings are independent from the constant othering? Part of the same campaign.
I think thereâs a big difference between the two.
Which posters have I banned?
But itâs part of the lobbying effort for the bans. And itâs objectionable in and of itself and part of the reason why people left imo.
Being an asshole shouldnât be a bannable offense. Being a bad poster shouldnât be a bannable offense.
Shaming and mocking was part of the most effective technique of converting people to your side for a decade on 2p2. Banning not so much. You should know this better than anyone.
Honestly not sure what youâre talking about, I try to be generally nice to people online. Iâm sure I donât always, but I think I try to. Donât know what my side is or who I was trying to convert, and to what. Mostly at 2+2 I liked arguing and debating and never had the expectation that I would convince the person I was talking with, that almost never happens. But I shamed and mocked people? I donât know, maybe, I shouldnât have if I did.
I sent you a PM several weeks ago (under spidercrab account) asking about this - if you want to step down, let me know.
Try harder
Oh yeah, please demod me