About Moderation (old original thread)

How many 3 day bans is someone allowed and in what frequency?

Watevs was banned for three days this week for a barrage of personal attacks and within hours is back on the site with a barrage of personal attacks and another 3 day ban. Is there an end to this?

This is the third ban for such behaviour.

Mods are not going to perma a reg without a community vote. Maybe instead of complaining about watevs and complaining about moderation, you should start a thread and a poll about it. If heā€™s permaā€™d heā€™s permaā€™d. If not, maybe you accept that you have a minority viewpoint on this and stop complaining about him all the time.

At this point I think Iā€™d bet that he gets voted off the island.

What do you think the difference is, and, given that you openly state you have bad intentions here, why should we continue to allow you to post?

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The mod actions thread doesnā€™t always detail the offence so itā€™s hard to take a look at what got watevs banned - why should everyone have to do a search through the forum when it takes a mod less than a minute to post?

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Ya my complaining about him in the correct thread is the real issue here. Iā€™m not starting a thread on him being banned as my history with him biases it. The fact that nobody elseā€™s seems of care is a real comment though.

Before I answer that, can you clarify what ā€œcontinue to allow you to postā€ means? Since Iā€™ve already been told to not post in the C-word thread (and havenā€™t since then), and this is the only other thread in which I have been posting, do you mean a perma ban from the site?

I think stuff is deleted and hard to find, so I donā€™t really know, but I think it was goofy who said it was repeated abuse in the covid thread. I havenā€™t been in that thread much lately.

He called Suzzer a bunch of names over several posts and said he hopes he catches covid. Suzzer wasnā€™t involved or responding. Apparently he was just upset that Suzzer traveled to wherever it is he went.

What do you even mean by that? This is one of those phrases thatā€¦well bugs me. Itā€™s bad posting. Are you suggesting that Iā€™m suggesting you should be banned? Are you suggesting I suggested your post was worse than his posts?

If no one else cares then you have a very minority position and you think you should still get your way?

Why donā€™t you ask a third party to start the thread? Or just start it, what are you afraid of? A lot of people donā€™t like watevs.

I love Suzzer and thatā€™s bad. Sounds like the 3 day was called for.

What is bad? watevs throwing around personal abuse or suzzer going on holiday to Costa Rica at the height of a pandemic?

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Iā€™ve made 4 or 5 posts on this site in the last 8 hours and theyā€™ve all been in this thread. Iā€™ve dropped it already, Iā€™m only responding to other postersā€™ posts to or about me ITT.

To your general point - I started off in that debate with advocating a position that I personally donā€™t feel all that strongly about, but nonetheless was a point which I felt should be made. Iā€™m not sure how that all escalated to where we are now, and Iā€™m sure itā€™s probably mostly my fault, but now I feel pretty defensive about the whole thing.

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When goofy banned him three days ago, one of the many attacks that precipitated it was him wishing a poster would get painful cancer.

Iā€™m not defending watevs because I have nfi idea what he posted, but as a general point itā€™s very easy for anyone to claim anything (and people frequently do) absent the offensive posts quoted in the Logs thread.

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Your response in the moderator thread is to suggest Iā€™m overly complaining by asking a moderation question. You then suggest my previous complaints about him were also over complaining the day after he has taken his third ban for being abusive.

Iā€™m suggesting your concern with my concern is misguided. If Iā€™m misunderstanding the intent of your post then I apologize.

I looked and it was wookie and he logged it. I can see complaining that the log wasnā€™t detailed, but, meh, seems like wookieā€™s description was fine in this case.

Ok, but thatā€™s not what REAL PROBLEM actually implies. It implies Iā€™m ranking the problems.

And, ESPECIALLY right after watevs got a 3 day ban, it is over-complaining to complain about how laxly he is moderated imo.

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Clovis,

As a community, what do you think we hope to accomplish with a couple 3 day bans? Is it reform or are we trying to build a case for permaban? Because if itā€™s reform, shouldnā€™t we stop complaining about people when we ban them and then try to not continue the fighting when they get back? Shouldnā€™t we try not to talk shit about them while they are suspended so that we can at least hope for the best and smoothest return? Or are we just building a case for perma and we want to get started on the next ban immediately when this one is up?

eta: sorry, I forgot about the 15 minutes.

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lmao why not? If someone repeatedly breaks the rules of any community they should get the axe no questions asked. Why do you think 2p2 had an infraction system? This isnā€™t a democracy, if the rules set up by the mods say ā€œdonā€™t make repeated personal attacksā€ and someone does anyway, ban them.