First, you’ll notice that, while you said almost the same thing as Trolly factually, I took the time to reply to you. “Don’t be openly rude and snarky and in bad faith and more interested in scoring points than conversation” isn’t a high bar to clear.
Direct to this latest point, that’s been my conclusion over many months of observing the forum and in particular this thread and related threads, not just these individual responses. It’s pretty obvious to me and has been for some time. I don’t know what leads you to conclude otherwise.
That said, it wouldn’t be the first time on UP I pointed out behavior towards me I had a problem with or that was not in any sense of community-- and behavior that seems to be part of a pervasive pattern directed at other people as well-- and people made excuses for that person. If that really is going to be a pattern here then I should just move on, because I’ve seen where that kind of in-group / out-group stuff leads in communities like this, and it’s never anywhere good.
I took the time previously to write out my thoughts on all that and how we can patch things up because, despite my misgivings about 2p2 and some of you, I like most of you just fine and think building this place into a healthy community is a good idea. But I’m not foolish enough to think I can singlehandedly change anything. I have places I can go where I can describe my personal experiences without being shit on and without the shitters being defended as Actually Good Guys. I’d hoped for better than that here, but every time I dip my toes in, it seems like that’s just the way it’s going to be.
I acknowledged in my post that it might not have been your intention to rub people the wrong way and you flat-out accuse me of posting in bad faith. Unreal.
Not to generalize (hint: I’m finna generalize), but damn it seems like everyone in this forum has a dramatically overinflated sense of the extent to which they are good faith posters.
eta: except for @beetlejuice, of course. His sense is perfectly inflated.
It’s just that “bad faith” is used 'round these parts to mean “thing I don’t like.” Same with “troll” and “gas lighting”. These are snarl words (R.I.P @-Sabo).
There’s lots of kinds of trolling, because trolling it one catch-all term for different things. If you go onto a message board for a rival sports team and go taunt them while rocking an avatar of your team and making no bones about that, that’s trolling, but it’s not really bad faith, because you quite probably mean what you’re saying.
Why don’t you ask someone who’s actually used that term what they mean rather than someone who’s never said it here to define it on behalf of someone else?
So all things considered, it’s a relatively small percentage of people posting/arguing in AM when compared to the “active” user base. There are probably people who post on UP and have no idea about the nonsense here in AM.
I’ll grant the highest volume posters are likely posting in this thread too, but whatever. I’m buzzed.
s this past week. I’m only 3rd in received, so that’s bullshit.