PM spamming multiple opponents and demanding over and over to see posts that had already been posted are both terrible looks. You weren’t banned for a singular post saying “I am trolling,” and claiming that you got banned because of that one post makes it incredibly hard to take you seriously.
I had replied but delete it so as to respect the 4 hr restriction. It’s because I’m not obligated to take him at his word. He’s been behind the scenes with a group that has been very much the opposite of “civility and respect,” including a coordinated strategy to further sow discord via bad faith offers of reconciliation or at least detente. His last post was just more of that.
I have no idea when or who decided it was to be this forums policy to completely ignore the posting history of posters from 2+2.
Keed was a horrible poster/troll there for years and they were close to being modded here. Seriously how the fuck did that almost happen
Jmakin had many confrontations and problems there and they were allowed to become admin here which was clearly a mistake.
Clovis was a horrible poster for years and they’ve seemingly become some sort of self-appointed forum voice of reason where he dominates threads with a constant barrage of posts that are impossible to ignore because so many people respond to them.
I have no recollection of reading jalfrezi or fidget posts at 2+2 but it’s been clear for a long time that they and others have been obviously trolling on unstuck and have been the driving force behind most of the drama this forum has been plagued with.
Moving forward, ban trolls. If you can’t differentiate between sincere dumb posters and trolls, leave it to the professionals to figure it out. Don’t let obvious trolls projectile vomit posts all over the forum for months ever again without banning them
I am sympathetic to jmakin, but the only reasonable explanation for him not being banned yet is the need to “hand over the keys” and even then he should not be allowed to post.
But see, you don’t understand the context of the discussion, that’s the entire point! I know this, because I do understand it, because I read it all (more than once), and then read your posts.
In light of this information…?
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ahahaha how is this a real conversation happening?!?
Saying somebody should actually read something (or at least a thorough cliff notes, which that collection of hot takes was most definitely not… lol you’re hitching your wagon to Suzzer’s star jfc) before they speak authoritatively about said something is a controversial bizarre angle?!?
p.(p.?)s.
Nobody was bickering, man, remember we were all compatriots in cahoots in our secret PM coup clubhouse! That only changed when Ked almost by default made it public and invited dissenting and contrasting voices.
You’re just typing random words rather than admitting how ball-tinglingly absurd your position is.
I’m logging back in to correct this. I clearly stated why I’m leaving in my post in the “Poll to make SensiblePerson an Admin” thread. It had nothing to do with jmakin making the PMs public.
As I stated in my post, ■■■■■■■ added me to the PM thread, about an hour or two before it got published.
So please, inform yourself before spreading misinformation, or stop lying.
And all the posters who hearted your post should be ashamed of themselves for amplifying misinformation.
He said it here, publicly. Your side sure loves to lie and distort, especially when it comes to me.
I understand the level of anger directed toward me. I violated the community’s trust and for that I can only offer another apology. If it makes you feel better, I feel pretty shitty about myself. Judging from what I read in that thread, that should make several people very happy.
JT, man, I enjoy your posting and I want to bury the hatchet here. I don’t remember what I said about eggshells but I’m sorry if I was a dick to you. I don’t want to be beefing or whatever with you.
You seem really held up over the word “bickering.” It maybe wasn’t the best choice of words, but saying “bickering” over “trolling” shouldn’t ellicit multiple long, JAQing off posts.
I have a message from Chad; I wasn’t sure where to post it given that there’s at least one other thread about this massive recent shitshow and multiple others about related modding / banning decisions
Can I ask a weird favor? Dumb stupid unstuck shit. I logged out Sunday night, because I am done with all of them, both “sides.” I didn’t want to leave a ragequit message. I just wanted to walk away and have everyone leave me alone. Someone I don’t want to talk to has contacted me complaining about a ban they say I made last night. And apparently they claim Jmakin leaked people’s private messages. Just tell them anything anyone says I’ve done since Sunday night is a lie, and I believe they can check this by clicking my profile and it says when a user was last seen. You can just paste this whole message if you want, and ask them all to please leave me alone. And if anyone says to anyone else “see what you’ve done” they’re missing the point.
That’s all I have, no follow-ups (other than maybe it was over this ban?).
Tell chad that was me who banned cassette, then. I’m not entirely sure why the forum software is saying it was him.
@6ix Hey guess what, I actually did sit and read every single post in that PM thread (after it was made public, as I’m not one of the cool kids, yanno). I saw a lot of exactly what Ao is talking about. I did see people who seemed like they genuinely wanted to improve the forum, sure, but namecalling, laughing about trolling and the reactions of people not included, etc were definitely going on.
Pretty sure the “definition of trolling” discussion is going on in the fidget thread. Posting with the sole intent of inciting heated reactions from others is the basic definition, and that’s exactly what fidget admitted to, then laughed about, then posted about how he was going to change tactics to continue trolling.
And of course the tone changed when it was made public. People don’t like to be talked about derisively behind their backs. It’s not rocket science.
Again, I really don’t know why you’re doing this or what I and others have done to be treated this way, but I do, at this point desperately, want to know (desperately curious, let’s not go crazy) so I’m gonna do this in short, declarative sentences:
There is a 4hr Chillout Clock on this thread.
I first made one post.
You replied.
You used the work ‘bickering’ in that reply.
I then replied once.
I could not reply more than once, mathematically.
I mentioned you using the word ‘bickering’ in a postscript of that reply.
My point has nothing to do with the the word ‘bickering’ .
That is why I put it in the postcript.
There were zero questions in this postscript.
We can see these are facts here:
So, with these facts in place, there are three possible reasons why you would say that,
“…saying “bickering” over “trolling” shouldn’t ellicit…”
(cause and effect backwards, the ‘bicker’ part was at the very end)
“…multiple long…”
(one postscript, of one post)
“…JAQing off posts.”
(no questions asked in said postscript)
You can’t read for comprehension above an elementary school level.
You are mentally divergent to where you can’t process objective reality.
You are trolling me, by trying to present a reality that everybody here can easily see didn’t happen.
I highly doubt it’s 1 or 2.
You might not think you’re trolling, or even mean to. After all, you’re only focused on not answering a simple question, reiterated to make it easier to understand. But, it’s trolling nonetheless.
I can dig it, but you should tell Greg he’s also a crazy gaslighting liar then. The rubber needs to meet the road at some point:
