I mean… yes? Doesn’t that make their concern more likely to be legitimate and not just anger over themselves being banned?
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I was thinking about taking a break because of other people’s treatment. Not my own. Not that I’ve ever mentioned it in a post, you’ve weirdly mentioned it far more than I have. Like four times to my zero.
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Flynn.
Honest question. They have clearly made their case at this point don’t you agree?
The community simply does not agree with them. It’s that simple. They have failed to make their case. I don’t see how it isn’t that simple?
Nobody should be run off, jal shouldn’t be banned if can accept that he failed to make his case and let it go now and I really hope jbro comes back. He is awesome and I really don’t see how he got looped into this whole mess.
How in the world was it ironic?
It’s a turn of phrase, no underlying meaning.
That’s not ironic? Wookie said 40% of the site were misogynists who didn’t care about women. Wookie actually responded to the post you’re referencing:
The fact that I also find this place increasingly intolerable doesn’t seem to have anything to do with the above.
It depends on what you’re referring to. There isn’t one single issue that the community in general is in broad consensus about and just some minority can’t accept that. Granted, there seem to be several issues of just that sort, but my point is that it’s nothing like as clear-cut and simple as you make out.
As an aside, also, I don’t like this increasing turn towards “You lost, now you have to stop talking about it”. People who wanted the c-word moderated lost, and they didn’t stop talking about it, and indeed now they’ve got their way. This is a message board. Talking about stuff is what it’s for. No-one has to read or reply to anyone and if they do, that just means they also want to talk about it.
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I think jbro was more mad about mod decisions and behavior (that wasn’t directed against him) but he was probably also mad about the hordes of posts calling for banning anyone who complained about moderation.
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I will admit that I’m not well versed enough in the art of Keeed to know when and how he is trolling, but I will attempt this logical exercise, because you made similar points about jbro -
If you think that ~40% of the people in your community are dismissive of woman, it makes a lot of sense to question how you can still be a member of such community.
The same principle applies to whatever very bad type of human behavior that X% is.
Deciding to not be a part of such community is a very understandable decision. If I remember correctly, jman said in that thread that he will leave the forum if the poll went against his preferred option. Keed might feel similar about some other decisions made. None of it is ironic.
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Perhaps I worded my point poorly. I meant don’t be posting in every thread about how terrible the modding is and following mods around the forum to make that point over end over again.
If we are a community site governed within a democracy at some point when an issue is raised and voted on the losing side has to accept it, no?
They have made their case that they think the modding is very bad and biased. A large part of the community has read their case MANY TIMES and remain unconvinced. That means they should not be allowed to pollute every thread on the forum making their case again.
I don’t see how this isn’t both fair and in the spirit of community decision making.
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Replacing the current group of mods entirely would, at least temporarily, solve all of these issues. I don’t even care who the new mods are, although I think PC and Keed would be fine. I’m ready for an entirely new batch of drama. This shit is beyond tired at this point.
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There is no reason to think that the next mod who stepped into stop any of jal’s personal shots would not become the next target of his mod unfitness campaign. Or who locks a Keeeed thread, or takes action against any of the crew that voted to remove me and that has been carrying on about my unfitness for months now.
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Probably not, but that isn’t an argument against new mods
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If that is why he left it’s pretty weak since as I said the community just doesn’t agree that the modding is biased. If one side is going to quit every time they fail to convince the community of their position we will be a pretty small forum. 
Yeah that’s not how it went at all but you carry on.
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I think it is foolish to give a small number of vocal, hostile posters exactly what they want in exchange for nothing. It’s ridiculous that a tiny minority should get to dictate when and if there’s a mod sweep when the mods have the full confidence of the vast majority of the forum.
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But who gives a shit? Almost everyone will be happy with the new mods too. And you’ll rotate who will be upset on a regular basis. What difference does it make?
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On most issues, I agree, and even to some extent here. But modding happens in every thread and people often comment on mod actions in the thread the action is taken, positively, negatively, whatever. If someone is known to have an opinion on a mod, that shouldn’t preclude them commenting also.
Now, someone barging into every thread, derailing every thread etc, yeah that’s not good and shouldn’t be put up with long-term. Without wanting to litigate how closely that matched jbro’s actions lately, don’t you agree that something like that is different when it’s from an account like jbro. Like there are people who weren’t born when he started posting who can legally drive now. It’s not like some blow-in just here to stir shit. In and of itself, it prompts serious questions about what is going on.
I’d say he has accepted it, which isn’t the same thing as ‘letting it go’. Again, this is a message board, it exists so people can say things. If people want to Carthago delenda est about whatever issue, assuming they aren’t being disruptive or derailing other threads, I don’t see the issue.
Because no mod should have to put up with this. Not for a year. Not for six months. Not for one month. Not for one week. I will not grant that sustained troll campaigns against any moderator work and are acceptable.
I was sort of under the impression that rotating mods had been loosely agreed on and I’m surprised there’s so much pushback against the idea. I don’t think it should be a big deal to be a mod (as I don’t think it’s a big deal to get temp-banned, have a post deleted etc). In fact, I could see a case for making jalfrezi a mod. If you’re right then a mile in your shoes might change everything.
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