I don’t want to psychoanalyze Wookie, but if he calculated that he could increase his power by locking that thread, he is a moron, but he’s not a moron. It’s something he did that people can agree on or not. If people disagree with him and voice that disagreement and it’s clear that the action was not consistent with what the members of the site want and the action is undone, then that’s the system working and no harm no foul. Moderators should be responsive, but it’s absurd to expect them to perfectly anticipate or interpret community sentiment.
eta: Not arguing with you Dodger, just clarifying and expanding on my thoughts there.
I wasn’t really keying in on what you were saying so much as jman’s reaction.
But, when has locking and closing threads that community members are actively involved in been the ethos of this site?
What you’re saying is true but its something of a cop-out for this situation. A moderator can do anything arbitrarily and then it’s up to everyone else to react, which is happening now. That’s fine and understandable in a borderline case, but this seems like a flaunting of power that’s counter to how the community operates.
Damn it’s annoying waiting for the auction to close so I can post.
There’s nothing more to that thread than everyone telling you your criteria for “trying to seize power” is absurd, over and over and over, and yet you still insist on leaving it open for more people to do so. It’s just reveling in the negative attention at this point.
I agree the thread is terrible, hence why I don’t post in it. If other’s want to engage, I don’t see why we should stop them. I would support moving it to FrenchBBQ, but don’t see why an active thread should ever be closed.
You think the thread is dumb and pointless? Fine, ignore it. Who cares. My opinion is unpopular? No shit! Again, who cares? But you closed that thread in a fit of pique because, what? I wasn’t convinced by your masterful argument? So you threw a little tantrum and locked the thread.
Oh yeah, you really want to believe I was furious with you.
But no, I don’t think it’s a good idea to have threads that let animus fester, and I don’t think people should have their own little troll domains under the guise of “oh, just ignore it.” People don’t.
Trolling? You think that’s not my genuine opinion in that thread?
I don’t think you were furious. I think you were annoyed. And an annoyed moderator literally in the middle of an argument shouldn’t be locking the thread the discussion was in.
I don’t think you’re 100% trolling, and don’t take this the wrong way because I am a fan, but as an observer over the years I think when you realize you are maybe outnumbered in an argument you will double down into the position and this looks trolly.
I don’t personally understand your position in that thread or why it’s a discussion that even needs to be had, and I understand wookie locking it, but I voted for it to remain open because ultimately I don’t care.
The thread has not run its course. There is still plenty of time for Trump to do something that everyone but Keeed interprets as an attempt to seize power.
You can believe what you said, and it can still be trolling, in the sense that a Seahawks fan going to a Niners forum and posting sincerely held beliefs can still be trolling. Knowingly provoking a negative reaction from a ton of posters by insisting on holding an unpopular belief or definition that you may sincerely hold can most definitely be trolling, and the fact that you insist on getting to do more of this when literally nothing more than that has come of that thread sure looks like trolling to me.
As far as mods not modding in threads where they are participants, I think that’s a poor standard, as mods generally don’t mod in threads where they aren’t participating and lack context. Many threads have near universal mod participation.
I think enjoys the thrill of trolling and “it’s not trolling if you believe it” so he gets in the mindset of being sincereish about trollish positions to get the excitement of trolling with plausible deniability. It’s like a sports jock host in harmless forms and Fox News personalities in malevolent forms.
I mean, I guess we can keep the thread open to talk about why he is the way he is. All that’s really left at this point.
I guess I can understand that but I think it’s because I actually enjoy when my genuine opinion is in the extreme minority and people argue with me. While a normal person kind of doesn’t like that and maybe finds it uncomfortable, says, OK I don’t like that so I’m going to shut the fuck up about this. I like arguing with people, especially about politics, I know not everyone is like that.
I mean I was trying to convince people that it wasn’t an important distinction, and certainly not a knowable question.
no way, my boy @simplicitus would never abandon me.
This is fucking horseshit. Only sufficiently popular takes allowed! What kind of discussion forum is that? “Insisting on holding an unpopular belief”? More like not shutting the fuck up when Mr. Wookie is annoyed.
Did anyone else flag any posts as problematic or ask for moderation or for the thread to be closed? It’s one thing to act on someone else’s complaint and another to abruptly end the discussion that you were literally moments ago yourself participating in.
It shouldn’t have happened though. I don’t think any of the other mods would close a thread without a good reason - it’s always this one trying to assert his “authority” inappropriately.
I get that he’s been a 2+2 mod forever and a day and that old habits die hard, but really…if a mod is incapable of adapting to these forum rules then s/he’s no use as a mod.
And I also get that it requires a Senate style vote to demod someone, which won’t happen.
Please can you just mod better, in line with the rules and spirit of the forum like the other mods, so we don’t have to waste collective hours in the Moderation thread to get invalid mod actions reversed?
You called me a megalomaniac, bro. If you believe half the words you say about my moderation and my character, you would think that I would refuse to step down even in light of a vote.