https://twitter.com/maplecocaine/status/1273992757686816769?s=21
Itâs for when they want to go for a McDonalds drive-thru.
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so youâre saying the vehicle is working
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We agree right up until you start saying the police shouldnât be enforcing court judgements. Thatâs pretty unavoidable if courts judgements are to mean anything. There ARE countries where court judgements have almost no effect and they arenât generally nice places. Disputes need to be adjudicated, and the results of those proceedings needs to be enforced.
You want the cops to stop enforcing evictions and I want the legal system heavily overhauled so that itâs simpler and fairer. I want the cops to enforce judgements against the wealthy at the same level they do against the poor. Way too many commercial establishments operating exactly the way that got them fined with huge amounts in unpaid fines due. The fact that the sherriffs department has plenty of time to toss people out of their slumlord apartments and not to padlock businesses in violation of court judgements is yet another example of corruption.
Still no way to not have law enforcement actually enforce legal judgements which is one of the true core functions of the state.
Give courts money to hire bailiffs to enforce court judgements. Why should any function of the state at all be operated by a paramilitary force?
Obviously Iâm for demilitarizing the police. Sheriffs departments or Bailiffs are going to be evicting people (one type of judgement that needs enforcement) in any system that actually works. Those people are basically going to be law enforcement of some sort no matter what.
I know one as well. But you need to be a cop to get away with it.
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Fyp.
Yeah a lot of the corruption is baked right in. Not disputing that. The current system is very corrupt, and Iâd like to figure out how to dismantle as entirely as possible.
Well, if we abolish landlords we wouldnât have to deal with the âcorruptionâ aka enforced exploitation.
Your side still hasnât begun to explain what would exist in their place. The problem with landlords is the power disparity. The same power disparity that impacts the bottom 60% in an almost unlimited number of places. Stop trying to fix symptoms and work on the root causes instead.
The first step in solving a problem is to understand whatâs going on at a deep level. You clearly donât understand (or want to understand) how the housing market works. Thatâs fine, itâs complicated and you donât have any good reason to really get into the weeds⌠but stop trying to tell people who actually understand the complexities what we should do.
Money isnât the root of all evil⌠lack of money is. We need to end poverty full stop. Non poor people donât get abused by their landlords, if anything they beat the landlords up a bit on balance.
And Iâm not having this argument again. Itâs dumb and it doesnât accomplish anything. Huge waste of time.
I donât really know whatâs right, how I feel about the entire issue, whether there is a good solution or whether whatâs optimal is really not multiple solutions in parallel, but I understand the housing market better than most here (Iâve been housing consultant, appraiser, landlord, tenant, RE Broker, property flipper, general contractor) and whatâs most striking is the condescension from the people who think âAbolish Landlordsâ is silly and that the people who they are talking to havenât put as much or more thought into it as they have.
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Your pony is a few days lateâŚ
https://unstuckpolitics.com/t/abolishing-the-police/1983/694?u=ripdog
and I agree that the system needs to be changed from purely punitive and cruel to restorative and empathetic.
Two people shot and one died in Seattle/CHAZ. Victim a 19yo male. Anyone here anything more about it?
This guy doesnât know, but has heard it was gang related.
This video is pretty good.
someone in the comments says they were there and it was just an argument - not gang related :shrug:
I agree with you.
For example, here you are identifying a symptom:
Here I am identifying a root cause:
Here you are acting as if the opposite took place:
So, after apparently confusing yourself about who is identifying causes vs symptoms. You may want to consider this advice:
Well, my understanding of the housing market is that landlords are benefiting from being rent seeking middlemen while extracting profits and building wealth at the expense of their tenants. This is a fact. It is why landlords do the landlording.
Letâs see if you, a self-proclaimed expert in the âcomplexitiesâ of the housing market understands this basic fact.
Landlords getting beat up by non-poor tenants on balance!!! LOL. Thatâs a real thought that you had. That you then shared immediately after claiming that itâs OTHER people that donât understand the complexitiesâŚWOW.
Apparently in my 20 years of being a licensed real estate agent in the state of California, and being the agent of record for tens of millions of dollars worth of transactions, I should have been warning my wealthy clients to NOT purchase rental properties because they were going to get beat up on balance by their tenants. I have been a fool this whole time. /sarcasm
Well, I must say, if this is the kind of intellectual depth you posted with in the Abolish Landlords thread, I am not surprised you found it to be:
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rekt lol bored I love you, but that had to feel below average
They invested money and got a return, thatâs only rent seeking in the sense that itâs profit from capital instead of work. Further there is real demand for a shorter term housing market that doesnât involve paying the transaction costs that a different group of ârent seekersâ (you people in the real estate industry) charge for getting into and out of owning a home.
Something that I assume you know (although you understanding this would make your entire post be in bad faith⌠but I digress) is that ROIâs on rental properties rise steeply as the initial purchase price of a rental property goes down. For example itâs entirely possibly to buy a property for <100k and rent it out for 800 a month in many markets, and my house is worth ~300k and rents for 1750. A space at a trailer park including trash and water in Texas will run you 250-500 bucks, which is literally just a microscopic plot of land with some water/power hookups in an undesirable location. The land might be worth 10k, maybe. That doesnât even get into the innumerable bullshit fees that the people who own these properties inflict on their tenants.
The problem isnât land lords, the problem is that poor people are made incredibly vulnerable to all kinds of exploitative behavior by others by not having enough resources to defend themselves. Itâs the same reason that they get fucked by their employers, payday lenders, pawn shops, cops, and literally dozens more. You blow up the rental market and get rid of landlords and these people will still be poor. You get them out of poverty and suddenly their landlord will have to treat them like a human being they entered into a contractual relationship with on even terms because they could actually say no.
You should know that your entire post is trash, and Iâm super suspicious of your claim to being a successful career realtor because of it. As for @rivaldo⌠thereâs a reason why he was on my ignore list until recently and heâll go back shortly. Imagine stanning for the police as currently formed but wanting to abolish landlords lolololol. What a moron.
Anther one in the eye for the letâs root out the few bad apples crowdâŚ
A British police officer is under criminal investigation by the police watchdog over the sharing of an offensive meme of George Floyd with other officers in a private social media chat group.
The Guardian has learned that the officer, who is with the Devon and Cornwall force, is alleged to have shared the image on 30 May, five days after Floydâs death in the US, and the investigation will consider if it was motivated by racism.
The Independent Office for Police Conduct (IOPC) is also investigating the officer, who holds the rank of sergeant, for possible gross misconduct.
The altered image of Floyd was allegedly sent to a WhatsApp group comprising police officers and staff as well as civilians. It was reported to bosses by a white fellow police officer in the same police force within 48 hours of the image being sent.
The IOPC said others in the chat group were also subject to investigation. âThe WhatsApp group included a number of police officers and staff. Some other members of the group are also being investigated for their alleged response to the image or their apparent failure to report the matter. The serving of any misconduct notices will be kept under review,â it said.