Abolishing landlords -- it's well past time

No fool.

The credit card companies “advancing more money” would be letting me buy a second tv. The land lords “advancing more money” would be letting me rent a vacation home too.

Car loans are like store credit cards. They can repossess. Apples and Oranges to general credit cards.

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So why should renting a house be treated like a credit card loan instead of a car loan?

So your hypothetical is based off the technical difference between store credit cards and normal credit cards, and you want to use the one that less resembles renting a house? :face_with_raised_eyebrow:

Edit: What Keeed said

Uh, repossessing a rental home is called an eviction. That’s the whole topic we are “arguing” here. SMH.

Right, I didn’t ask you what it was called. I asked you why repossession is reasonable with a car loan but not with a house.

  • First, I’m not making a hypothetical. I’ve already mentioned that to you, perhaps several times.

  • Two, I’m not “based off” anything. I’m simply trying to explain to you how reality works. Here in reality, there is a significant legal difference. Under our laws today, collateralize debt is treated differently than noncollateralized debt. Now you might think that is a “bad” thing, or a “good” thing, or a “strawberry” thing… knock yourself out. You might want to call that very real legal difference a “technicality”… whatever floats your boat.

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I didn’t make up the laws.

You are proposing banning evictions and turning rental debt into credit card-style debt, that’s called a hypothetical.

I do wonder if at any point you’ll ask yourself WHY it is that car financiers are allowed to repossess but not cc companies.

No it’s not a hypothetical. That’s the reality we live in right now today. Do you even know what the word ‘hypothetical’ means?

Here, I’ll throw you a bone. The following two scenarios are in fact both hypothetical:

  • The moratorium on evictions extends indefinitely
  • The moratorium on evictions expires shortly

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The reality we live in right now is if you don’t pay your rent you will eventually be evicted.

Can you tell the future?

Are we discussing policy or metaphysics?

Again, I’m ‘arguing’ in favor of keeping what’s in place at 12:30/etc/etc.

So that’s policy.

Fool, that wasn’t trolling.

Agreeing to avoid overloaded words is a SOP to have a productive and coherent conversation. I’ll give an example.

Oftentimes fools will have a stupid so-called argument that “hinges” on the word ‘murder’. One fool might mean it in the legalistic manner, as in an unlawful killing. Some other fool might mean it in a moralistic way, as in they feel the death penalty is “bad” killing. And these fools, if left to their own devices, will circle endlessly in their own foolishness…

Fool1: The death penalty is murder !
Fool2: No it’s not, the death penalty for murder is perfectly legal here !.
Fool1: No you idiot, the death penalty is murder !
Fool2: Are you stupid, it says right here that, that the death penalty for murder is perfectly legal here !
Fool1: {etc/etc}
Fool2: {etc/etc}

Now look what happens if these fools could be persuaded to just stop it with using the overloaded word ‘murder’…

Fool1: The death penalty is “bad” killing !
Fool2: Sure, if you say so. However, the death penalty for illegal killing is the law here.
Fool1: Can’t argue with that fact.

Stop Trolling !!2

When it’s actually written, yes.

No, you stop trolling asshole. Let’s put it to a vote !!!1!

  • @Sabo should exit this thread
  • @DrChesspain should exit this thread
  • por qué no los dos
  • Bastard !!!1!

0 voters

I’ll abide by the results. You be you.

Opps… the top box was supposed to say “Start Here”.

ETA:

  • You gotta teach the fools what your “side” actually is. And they’ll fight you all the way
  • You gotta teach the fools their own “side”, as they’ve never really gave it any thought. And they’ll fight you all the way.
  • You gotta teach the fools how to compare things, not in particular to any issue at hand, but in general. And they’ll fight you all the way.
  • At any time, and at their whim, the fools will reset the “game” back to zero.

Why would you find that frustrating?

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Post landlordism America would take a developer that is 100% altruistic.

The developer assembles the land parcels. Organizes the construction work. Puts up his own money to pay the materials and labour. Goes through the entire construction experience using him time and resources.

Then he rents the entire project at breakeven subsidized rents. All the tenants get a government loan to buy the project from the developer at his break even cost price. No more landlord.

Rinse / Repeat.

Until humans evolve towards creating philanthropists like that on a global scale we are stuck throwing more building blocks on this current system.

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