Who says there won’t be evictions? We don’t need landlords for that, you don’t forcibly throw people out, you call the cops and have them do it.
Has everyone just had horrible landlords? I’ve had like 4 different landlords over the last 10 years ranging from a single lady with a few houses she rented out to the big corporation company type landlord. I have never had a bad experience with a landlord.
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I don’t believe in an absolute right to property. This stems from my on-going lifetime feud with libertarians where I absolutely refuse to agree to individual rights being in any way stemming from their belief that they body is property and that you should be allowed to do with your property as you wish. (This can get interesting when I also refuse to accept similar lines of thought when discussing abortion.)
It is not practical nor is it efficient for government to completely oversee all land use. One practical compromise could be for what we see as land ownership to be viewed more as land trusteeship. You don’t really own land, but you can act like you do, so long as it is to the benefit of the common good. Government can restrict how you use your land, perhaps even seize it back from you and redistribute it to a more worthy trustee, should you fail to act for the common good. You don’t really own the land, but you get to keep it so long as you don’t screw up too badly.
In historical context, it really isn’t a stretch.
I’m not Jewish, but I would be very surprised if Jews today didn’t agree with the basic sentiment.
I’ve had consistently decent landlords, even when I was a student.
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You drive a hard bargain but I guess I’ll have to accept
Think about this for more than 2 seconds. Who pays for the building? What happens if the building burns down and needs to be rebuilt? If I move in to a building that has already been paid off by the people who lived there before me, do I have to pay them back?
That’s literally how it works right now though. See, I think a lot of you are very very confused about how the whole landlording thing works. Tenants have nearly all of the power, unless they break the rules set forth in the lease that they willingly entered into.
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So Islam is innately anti-semitic, iyo? That seems like a problematic sentiment.
But I’m curious. Plenty of people lend money at interest who aren’t Jews. In fact, most world-wide aren’t. Probably, most people in history who have lent money at interest have not been Jews. Doesn’t it strike you as odd that, when you hear mention of “making money with money”, the first thought in your head is “Oh, right, the Jews”? Doesn’t that seem a little, dare I say, anti-semitic, you think?
15%? Maybe. Because I bought property with no money down. My $/hr sucked though. I was essentially a low paid property manager and handyman for the bank.
Why don’t you think about it for 2 seconds. How much of your rent is going to the building’s owners and how much is going to the upkeep? How much of the upkeep is going for the upkeep and not into someone’s pocket?
Remove the profit motive from housing lowers the costs for everyone involved.
“But why would anyone build an apartment building if there was no profit?” Because they like to work and are getting paid to do it.
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Inso,
The people who can afford to pay rent pay for the people who can’t. It’s a complicated one but I’l try to run through it for you.
Government has money (no landlord required)
Government gives money to builders (no landlord required)
Builders build house (no landlord required)
Government gives money to supervisor (no landlord required)
Supervisor supervises house (no landlord required)
Tenants give money to government based on what they can afford (no landlord required)
Government has money (no landlord required)
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My properties were the type that took less money and more time investment.
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Although I don’t really see the Jewish connection here between landlording and “money-lending,” you really can’t be ignorant about how attacking Jews for money-lending has a long, proud history among European Christians.
I’m not touching the Sam Harris bait.
I don’t believe it’s anti-semitic to point out the historical anti-semitism of the association of moneylending with Jews. Perhaps there is a work of literature as well known as TMoV that pertains to Christian or Muslim moneylenders, but I haven’t seen it.
The connection isn’t between landlording and moneylending.
The point was raised by the anti-landlord crew that passive income was immoral. I was simply pointing out how anti-semitic (unintentionally or not) such a position was and is.
Perhaps you should follow your own advice?
Indeed, and I’m not ignorant of it. The idea that that makes criticism of finance innately anti-semitic is… well, it might be really dumb, it might be entirely disingenuous, or it might be indicative of Odd Ideas about Jewish people. The latter two are at least somewhat anti-semitic themselves.
For example. Everyone at least used to love ragging on the drinking Micks, right? Hilarious stuff. Paddy sells his kid for a bottle etc. If you think that makes a statement like “We should raise awareness about the dangers of alcohol” indicative of anti-Irish sentiment, well, maybe you’re dim, maybe you just don’t want people talking about alcoholism, or maybe you’re still thinking about Paddy and his affordably-priced kid. What you definitely aren’t is correct to say that.
Inso can definitely understand the concept of publicly owned housing with section 8 rents (tenant pays 30% of their income). He’s playing in bad faith.
The properties could be privately owned as well - as they are with most section 8 - and then if people lose their income, their portion of the rent would go away.
It’s basically impossible that he couldn’t come up with lots of systems. He’s just being dumb and assuming no one else knows what they’re talking about and thinking he can deliver some kind of sick burn.
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That’s not what you did, though. You yourself made the connection between moneylending and Jews. Clearly, when you hear “making money with money”, you think “Jews”. That, and I’m not even playing here, is anti-semitic.