A Meat Lover Goes "Mostly Vegetarian"

So I posted this in the general coronavirus thread in response to a post about meat shortages and @ChrisV asked me what I’ve been eating. In the interest of not detailing that thread, here we are.

Here’s the answer to Chris’s question, and at the end I’ll get into the impetus for going “mostly vegetarian.” Also, according to 23 and Me I should do best if I go low fat, so I try to keep that in mind although it’s a little tougher on a vegetarian diet so far. Never the less, it’s worked quite well.

Morning snack: fruit, usually mango lately because I’ve been on a mango kick.

Breakfast: A wrap with low carb tortillas (don’t care about carbs but they’re only 50 calories), spinach (raw), black beans, fat free cheddar, jalapenos, bell peppers, onions, and egg whites. This is delicious, filling, and 250-300 calories.

Snacks: I’ve mostly been snacking throughout the day instead of eating a big lunch. Carrots/celery/pita bread with hummus, apples with peanut butter/almond butter/chickpea spread, chickpea salad, black bean salad, strawberries, etc… I just pick one and eat it when I get hungry, usually 2-3 times through the day.

Dinner: This can vary more, I’ve done veggie stir fries with broccoli, snow peas, zucchini, squash, bell peppers and onions and some kind of a sauce. I’ve done veggie pasta with fat-free mozzarella. I’ve done chickpea pasta with sauce. I’ve done TastyBite microwaved Indian or Thai food with Ready Rice. The girl I’m dating has cooked for me - mac and cheese stuffed in bell peppers, a quiche, a vegetarian lasagna. Sometimes I’ll also just have the snacking foods in higher quantities.

Her cooking is less healthy, but given the overall low-cal nature of my diet, it’s been ok to consume more calories at dinner. Sometimes I’ll also just tweak the breakfast to make it into a quick dinner: wrap, fat-free cheese, black beans, jalapenos, peppers and onions.

It’s tougher in the current situation, but in a better situation I’d like to be having salads mixed in with spinach/romaine, chickpeas, jalapenos, banana peppers, red peppers, onions, and a low-fat dressing.

The one big frustrating thing is it’s been very hard to avoid running out of spinach without wasting spinach during the quarantine. it’s the type of thing that you really need to just run to the store to get the day or day before you need it.

Hopefully some of these tips are helpful, anyone can feel free to fire away with questions about the meals I’ve been eating.

How I Got Here And Early Reactions

I’ve basically always been overweight and I’ve always had a huge sweet tooth. Over the last couple years I’ve seen documentaries like Forks Over Knives and come to understand that going vegetarian would be healthy, but I love meat too much. I had an aunt go vegetarian on my Mom’s side and sing its praises and a cousin on my Dad’s side go mostly vegetarian and have great success losing weight and building muscle.

In February I hit a breaking point with trouble sleeping, lacking energy and feeling generally like shit. Just everything felt bad. I was thinking my trouble sleeping might be related to consuming too much processed sugar, and decided that something had to be done. I decided to try a week or two as a mostly vegetarian - if I went out to eat one day a week or whatever, I could get meat, but I’d mostly go vegetarian. I felt like if I cut processed foods and went vegetarian and it helped, I’d then be able to add stuff in and see what caused problems and what didn’t.

I was shocked how easy it was, and I realized that most of the meat that I ate at home was just meh. I used to have turkey, egg white, jalapeno, and Swiss wraps for breakfast. But it’s not like the turkey was super flavorful, even though I enjoyed them. Sometimes I’d get sandwiches or wraps from the market across the street - they were good, but not the type of thing where you bite into it and say “Oh my God!”

Just realizing that most meat eaten at home isn’t anything special or particularly delicious made it easy to cut it out, and what surprised me the most was that I barely missed it at all. I went vegetarian 2/21 to 2/27, then went out on a date to a Spanish restaurant and got tapas, I think 2 of the 5 had meat - it was a great meal. Then I went back to vegetarian, and stocked up and locked down and went without meat until Easter and I had no cravings or issues. On Easter we made ribeyes for dinner, I enjoyed them, and now it’s back to being vegetarian. I don’t miss meat, I enjoy my meals more than before, and I find I’m actually getting more interesting flavors in a lot of ways - maybe just cause it’s different.

Overall, it was helping my sleep. I think it’s unfair to try to measure that now, given the lack of sleep due to the pandemic and my stress over that. It was and still is helping my energy - even after getting less sleep, I wake up feeling more energetic… and the weight loss I mentioned in the quoted post from the other thread is obviously awesome.

Long term, when things get back to normal, I expect to eat meat on average about once a week, but I’m not going to sweat it if it’s two or three days in a row then not at all for a month. If I go on vacation and go out to eat every day, I might be the most carniverous dude on the planet that week. But if I’m chilling at home and not going out to eat for a few weeks, I might be 100% vegetarian.

If anyone has questions, feel free to fire away.

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Good job. More power to you and all that but I wonder if your weight loss has a lot more to do with cooking your own food and being stuck with your own kitchen instead of endless restaurant and fast-food options.

Not that I want to discourage you. I’m vegetarian, too, but for different reasons. It just always seems a bit weird to me to hear people going vegetarian for diet reasons. If processed sugar or trash food is the problem, there are plenty of non-meat options that you can fall off the wagon with.

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Well done!

I’ve been scaling back meat for two years now–for 2020 I am restricted to 3 days per week vegetarian, and only 1 day per week of allowing red meat. The idea is to slowly change habits, find new meals that I like over time, and adjust to eating meat being a special thing I look forward to, rather than something I expect every meal.

I have decided to go vegetarian throughout the duration of COVID-19. The next time I eat meat will be sitting in a restaurant. My GF is vegetarian, I hate handling/cooking meat, and most of the good meat isn’t really available. Seems like a convenient time to try.

(I haven’t personally observed any difference healthwise. My only reasons are environment and disliking the whole eating dead animals thing in a general sense.)

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I should do something similar but love meat too much in every meal and didn’t enjoy the brief spell with a vegan gf a long time ago.

Hats off to you though if it works for you.

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That’s definitely part of it, but the first 8 pounds or so were before the shutdown, and in that two weeks or so I made at least two trips to restaurants and got delivery a couple times.

Yeah, I mean I’m keeping these to a minimum. I gained a couple pounds back after Easter, I think because the girl I’m dating made cupcakes and muffins. The part of the lockdown that had been helping with that was that I only had to have willpower on sweets during the time I was ordering my food to be delivered.

I agree, and it seems like most of society is going the opposite way.

Really? I love meat, but the number of meals where I’m actually like, “Wow that was so good,” about the meat is pretty low eating at home, microwaving pre-made stuff, etc.

Most of the time I found it was like chicken or turkey prepared in a relatively mundane way, making it easy to remove from the diet.

I’m still eating egg whites and cheese (mostly fat free, though). I haven’t gone vegan… And it probably makes a big difference in enjoyment, to be honest.

I do this periodically and then slip off it, but at least for now I’ll sorta commit to:

I won’t buy or cause to be bought any mammal meat. I will eat whatever if the alternative is clearly that it will go to waste or still eat pretty much whatever if it’s served to me by someone who made it (doesn’t actually happen very often).

I might consider doing the same for other animals. For a few years I was a vegetarian other than Thanksgiving. For the reasons I would be a vegetarian though, I’d put dairy as worse than fish or fowl. And it would be pretty hard for me to give up dairy.

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Yeah I’m doing it for my health, the environmental or moral benefits are nice, but if I’m being completely honest they have ~nothing to do with my decision.

I think about health a bit in what I eat, but I’m not talking about health at all for my diet. But…the two things do overlap fairly well as dairy is pretty clearly worse for the environment and your health than fowl. Fish is a little complicated environmentally - better from a climate change pov, but some fishing does a lot of local harm.

As far as my health goes, I think the most important thing for me is probably to cut back on salt and I guess saturated fats would be next. I’m like pre-hypertension and who knows what my heart arteries look like.

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Here’s a look at my breakfast wrap… I highly recommend this. I can make it in about 4.5-5 minutes, so it’s quick, it’s tasty, it’s healthy, and it’s filling.

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The jalfrezwife is a meat-loving excellent cook. Right now we’re eating chicken soup that I can’t imagine enjoying chicken-less. Even when we’re not under quarantine and I’m cooking weekdays I don’t know what I’d substitute the thinly sliced breast in a chicken and broccoli stir fry noodles with, and then there’s the chorizo and peppers spaghetti and chicken legs stew dishes that would have to be replaced with vegan dishes.

It would’ve been a lot easier when I was single and eating rubbish most of the time.

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Thanks cuse. I feel like I might be hungry if I ate those kind of dinners because they’re low-protein but I guess I should just try and see. My girlfriend is pescetarian and I feel like lockdown is a good opportunity to try out eating vegetarian some number of days a week.

You’re welcome! As long as you’re getting lots of fiber (which you do with veggies), it should be pretty filling.

Let’s get some bagels, peanut butter, and bananas up in here!

jfc you have to soak some beans first and cook them properly.

Or just buy them in a tin.

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If you’re eating eggs eat the yolks. Not eating the yolks is wasteful and more expensive, and the yolks are where almost all the nutrients are.

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I’m buying egg whites in cartons, and I’m looking for some protein and calories and staying low fat as much as possible due to my DNA testing. Once I’ve lost the weight I want to lose, I’ll be back to being a full-egg person.

The cartons and their long shelf-life is also helpful in a pandemic, though.

Hey if you’re looking for a very low fat diet I’ve got some ideas

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