A Call to Ban NotBruceZ for Consistently Endorsing Violence

I don’t think it’s tricky at all. I think we shouldn’t condone it, and it doesn’t matter what the intent was. He’s clearly not going to stop as he’s been called out repeatedly and has explained why he believes what he’s doing is right.

If he’s not already on a list, it’s a failure of the FBI/NSA/whatever.

Vote hard no and will probably leave the site if it happens - give him a warning. There are other over the top posts that happen all the time.

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How many warnings does he get? He’s been called out directly, moderated, and this is the second thread started over it. He’s still doing it, and his response before was basically to explain why he’s doing it and why he does not intend to stop.

If we’re playing the “I’ll leave the site if XYZ happens” game, I’m out of here if the site decides by a majority to condone calls to violence.

I don’t think not banning him is the same as condoning it.

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That seems like an odd take to me, feel free to expand on it, but if he gets multiple warnings and keeps doing it, keeping him around sure seems like condoning it.

The post that set you off was not a call to violence. I think you are overreacting. I can find other examples of posts that go over the line, probably by some here even. It isn’t just him.

You need a system to hand out temp bans or to have infraction points. Going full nuclear is just stupid. What attempts to moderate have been done? I am not aware of any.

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One more warning, short temp ban, medium temp ban, longer temp ban, ban. I’m squishy but not that squishy.

I’m not bothered by any of the quotes and to be honest I agree with some of them, even if I wouldn’t post it myself. It’s hard for me to get worked up about them when public figures in office call for worse to happen to liberals.

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There’s a pattern here. I went through about 2 weeks of posts and didn’t want to spend more time, I’m sure it’s continued in the ~month since the point where I stopped copy and pasting. Some are hoping for violence, some are pondering whether it’s necessary, etc… I’m not trying to play a semantics game here. It’s a pattern of posting in the face of already being called out for it that set me off.

Maybe one or two posts by others, definitely not a pattern like this.

This is for the community to decide, I’m not even involved in the operation of the site in any way at this point. I’m basically a poster with admin privileges as a result of running Exiled for a minute. But I’ve been involved in numerous attempts to moderate him - I’ve flagged several posts, and I’ve reacted to several flagged posts. Clearly you didn’t read my post recounting a lot of the posting, because it included another thread in here where people tried to intervene.

Heres one from namath in the last day:

God dammit I want someone to just ruin Lynzie in the most humiliating way possible. Like goat sex tape humiliation. I hate him way more than Trump.

There was another one that was worse by him in the last few days but I can’t find it. You guys like him so it goes underneath the radar. I can find plenty of examples if I wasn’t so lazy. I have nothing at all against namath other than i think he soft trolls me in OOT to look cool. But those posts offended me more than the 9/11 posts. I don’t make an issue of it because it’s none of my business. It’s a me problem.

All it takes is for one wrong person to stumble onto this site, and his posting could trigger a violent act. He’s even said he might end up doing something if Trump is re-elected. I for one am horrified by those possibilities.

That’s pretty different from calling for violence.

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This just guarantees three or four more posts calling for/hoping for violence.

he’s literally calling for someone to be raped lol

Not how I read it at all. I read it as him hoping someone unearths a tape that already exists of him having sex with a goat.

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There is literally no other way to read that. I guess I’ll go find the other post then since you clearly don’t believe me.

It doesn’t seem like condoning to me. It’s just allowing it, or even less than that, it’s not coming to a collective decision to stop it.

I propose two possible actions:

  1. A vote to censure. Doesn’t do anything, but it will affect any future actions.

  2. A vote to endorse strict moderation so that a moderator should just delete or edit any questionable posts at will and without feeling like they need to get community support.

Either way, if he continues to make threatening posts we can reassess at any time.

Seriously? There is violence all around us. Nothing we can do about it. Thoughts and prayers. Price of freedom. I’m supposed to get worked up about what is essentially soft core porn when there is raging XXX condoned everywhere?

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C’mon micro, you’re seriously going to draw a line between allowing and condoning calls for violence?

Obviously not going to do anything, he’s been moderated repeatedly with no changes. He’s had an attempt by other posters to intervene, and nothing happened. None of that seems to be influencing this, so… :man_shrugging: Let’s just do nothing again, seems to be working well.

This might help, but it’s more likely just to lead to another huge blowup when there are people who think the moderating is out of bounds. It also puts the onus on unpaid moderators to clean up NotBruceZ’s shit so that he can keep doing his “Am I edgelording or might I go do something if Trump wins???” routine.

As for reassessing, he’s already continued to make these posts for over two months. This IS reassessing.

This seems reasonable.