If you dont think Trump will throw Vance under the bus and then get in and drive over him repeatedly if they lose, you dont know Trump.
I mean, his supporters attempted to execute the last VP who helped him lose. A bit more of a consequence than Tina Fey making fun of you.
I would pay good money to have Tina Fey make fun of me
And maybe step on you?
Even Trump needs some sort of event or opportunity to throw the guy under the bus. For Pence it was J6. If Trump just goes on to lose to Kamala, he can try to pin it on Vance, but I donât think it will stick with enough of them to be effective.
Take someone like Mnuchin, for example. I donât recall Trump actually throwing him under the bus. Obviously, if Mnuchin calls needing something, Trump will tell him to fuck off. But there really an event that set up the whole throwing under the bus business. Thatâs how I see it with Vance. If he just does standard running mate shit, Trump can (and will) blame him, but Itâs not going to stick, imo.
Well we got a long way to go before this becomes relevant, but im pretty confident in the event of a loss, after Trump blames election fraud, Vance will be his first target
Thereâs not an âafter.â Heâs established that he doesnât just eventually go, âokay okay, yeah, I lost.â He carries the lie on until heâs deep in the cold cold ground.
I would agree in theory that he WOULD do that to Vance, except for the fact that you canât blame someone on your own side for a loss that you permanently insist never happened.
Yeah, this is probably a better way to look at the spot Vance is in. And unlike Pence, Vance wonât be in a spot to do anything about it.
Of course, Orange Man is great at holding and promoting two contradictory positions, so he might even try. I just donât see it working in the way we hope (i.e. RIP Vanceâs political career).
Damn that would make for a pretty good national platform. Just need some healthcare and youâve got a stew
12 weeks paid sick leave 
THATâS SOCIALISM!
There had to be some serious back channeling and prep that went into her being ready to step in and secure the nom so quickly and easily. Kudos to whoever that mastermind was.
No kink shaming.
Harris up to 45c on PI, we went from J6o vs QQ to AKo vs TT
I mean the one âconspiracy theoryâ Iâd actually sorta believe is that the WH had this withdrawal planned out to the day, all the hemming and hawing and Pelosi ultimatums and âIâm looking forward to campaigning hard in TX as soon as I feel betterâ was complete bullshit, and theyâve been grooming Kamala for weeks in private.
Not buying. It wasnât a big secret that Nancy and Barack were putting the heat on Joe. Not being ready for the announcement would have been a crime. You know, the way the Rs were completely not ready.
Yeah I mean Iâm not saying itâs likely, but if a few years from now it came out that they knew what they wanted to do two weeks ago, but just wanted to keep it quiet during the RNC and then steal their thunder immediately after, I wouldnât be insanely surprised.
One way to look at it is that when time came to topple Bernie they all came together like never before. I have got to admit that I didnât see this level of cohesion behind Kamala coming, but maybe the Presidency is the one thing that will get the Dem establishment to fall in line.
The horror!
3 months paid sick time?
I assume thats for catastrophic illness only?
