2024 LC Thread

I mean people have seen ecofascism coming for like a century almost, at this point

https://x.com/berkey11/status/1855156419609145509

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Does anyone know what actually happened with this Maccabi Tel Aviv in Amsterdam situation? Ive read conflicting things and dont care enough to try to figure it out.

This is the best on the ground reporting

Left out of this article is exactly what the Maccabi fans had been chanting.

https://x.com/ytirawi/status/1854988410022183024?ref_src=twsrc^tfw|twcamp^tweetembed|twterm^1854988410022183024|twgr^01570e341574433e3b50cc4889ff93271d503f3f|twcon^s1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.timesofisrael.com%2Fliveblog_entry%2Fmaccabi-fans-filmed-chanting-racist-slogans-against-arabs-upon-arrival-at-ben-gurion-from-amsterdam%2F

What is unclear to me is the extent to which these things are all connected or are separate hate crimes. Maybe its unclear to everyone.

I’d say it’s football hooliganism being football hooliganism with the stupid shit that comes with it.

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https://x.com/MattBruenig/status/1855107004869517509

https://x.com/MattBruenig/status/1855107819529265455

It is quite easy to answer:

No

This sentiment, in this moment, really feels like the pontifications of a fat turkey on Thanksgiving morning.

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Simplictus is the leader of the CONSEQUENCES crowd. You can safely ignore his political takes. He is the guy from the Big Short where Carell tells his partner to just bet the opposite of every play that guy makes and you will print money.

Simp will be in here posting for the next several years how the courts will obviously save us.

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I don’t feel this way about him. He’s an attorney like me, so we are going to be biased in favor of legal institutions. Similarly, you’re a Canadian so you have a bias to think your society is somehow protected from the forces that are breaking ours due to superior culture or some other magical thinking. I really don’t think attacking each other over stuff like this does much of anything good, however.

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There is nothing magical about Canada. We have simply made better structural choices over 200 years and our culture is less selfish.

We are no utopia. Our next pm is set to be a right wing asshole.

Anyone who has not made a post about how wrong they were about consequences simply cannot be taken seriously. It takes only the smallest amount of self awareness to recognize that mistake.

I would bet he still thinks there is a chance Trump ends up in jail.

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Canada just isn’t as important as the US. So it doesn’t get the same amount of attention from wealthy interests that want to hollow out your institutions. Meanwhile it has been the project of wealthy conservatives since the Civil War and of wealthy international adversaries since WW2-ish to wreak ours. Institutions, regardless of their structure, don’t really matter all that much given enough time and money.

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This is partly true of course but this deeply rooted refusal to look at the cultural sources of America’s problems is so self defeating. The selfishness and American dream are the foundational problems that have allowed Trump’s rise. Everything else is a symptom imo.

America tops every ranking of countries by individualism That’s why it’s fucked.

canadians again talking about how much better their culture is wasnt on my bingo card but probably fair

you would be foolish however to think they are not vulnerable or under similar influences as US politics.

Which is why I’ve stated several times we are. We just have some structural and cultural traits that make it much harder to gain inroads.

We also have cultural traits that help fascism. Canadians are very trusting, fascism in a polite packaging is not going to face as much skepticism or push back here.

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I don’t really disagree with any of this, but it’s not like “the American Dream” and the virtue of selfish pursuit of wealth “greed is good” culture got establish and amplified out of some unique trait of the people living in the US. That shit has been cultivated and spread by the same people that want US institutions to be feckless because they benefit from it.

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canada is much less diverse as well, it’s not really an apples to apples comparison. You could never get a “the blacks are eating your pets” message through to canada not because of culture but simply because there isn’t a lot of ethnic/racial friction there compared to the states.

Simp is just a starry-eyed idealist. It’s good to be practical and all, but the world needs beautiful dreamers too. Stay wild Moon Child!

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