2024 Election POST MORTEM

So why is it good when the GOP does it?

That sounds like some doctors I know

1 Like

I wouldn’t take it. Don’t forget about all the government shutdowns that are also going to occur.

What is “purity testing” even supposed to mean here, in an objective sense? Everyone hates “purity tests” when it comes to issues that they aren’t particularly worked up about, it gets a lot harder when we’re talking about stuff that offends your core values. There are voters who can’t support the Dems out of principle because of their support for the Arab-Israeli conflict. There are people who won’t compromise on LGBT politics or guns or etc. You can think Harris should appear on Rogan or Fox News but maybe she shouldn’t try palling around with Andrew Tate. Everyone has a point where they draw the line and calling it “purity testing” sort of dismisses the real challenge of herding a coalition of groups with conflicting priorities.

Good example of how people are never content: There are still people ripping the Chiefs front office and doom and glooming about the season on Chiefsplanet.

We are 8-0 and haven’t lost a must-win game since Jan 2022. Doesn’t matter. That’s all been internalized.

This from a user base that suffered either terrible seasons or agonizing playoff defeats for 50 years, and most CPers are old enough to remember most of those.

1 Like

There are 44 million of them of voting age and more coming of voting age every year. The ipad generation behind them has no indication of being any better. It seems silly to ignore their issues as a campaign focus, especially, IMHO, more and more people are going to be subjected to the effects of climate change as they age, especially the youngest of us. I have a theory millennials especially feel this as their kids enter the 5-15 year old range and imagine the future their kids face. That’s an absolutely massive voting bloc that was essentially ignored. It’s also an easy emotional argument. There are a lot of reputable studies out there I’ve read that I will link if interested that state millennials spend more time with their kids than any other previous generation measured so far, but especially boomers, who largely do not seem to care about their children as perceived by their children. They also essentially control all of the wealth - the wealth transfer of which will be fascinating. There is a booming class of boomer-lite millennials we will have to deal with or maybe already are.

Anyway, my point is, It’s very easy to craft an anti “boomer” message among young people with the core theme being they destroyed your planet and now you are voting for them? It’s ageist and terrible but there is enough tinge of truth in it to be effective. Why no one capitalizes on this is beyond me. JD fucking vance is our first actual millennial serious candidate. How/why did that happen?

Like, had biden not gone on stage our choices would have been two octogenarians (sp?). No one can convince me that is not exploitable. Even bernie is old as fuck.

Interesting thing about this, one of his friend told him that furloughed IRS workers receive full back pay once the shutdown is settled, so its like a paid vacation if that happens.

The Austin Statesman talked to some illegal and recent immigrants. They want Trump because he’ll improve the economy and curb illegal immigration

1 Like

Yeah almost all govt workers get their back pay.

Not sure why we would get a govt shutdown if they have all 3 branches.

It’s been some time since anyone mentioned Joe Biden trying to run for a second term as a big part of the problem, but I don’t want to forget that.

1 Like

lol, it’s just coming to my attention that Harris ran ahead of Sanders in Vermont. Should, but will not, give pause to the “the lesson of 2024 is that Bernie Sanders should run for president” crowd.

2 Likes

Besides, he said, “Trump wants to deport those who do bad things. … I haven’t broken any laws.”

-Final words of Austin man before a leopard finished eating his face

I think I am just going to reduce myself to a bot that says “people want villains more than helpful policy.”

2 Likes

The crowd you just invented in your mind?

I have a buddy that works for the government. He said it’s horrible because you don’t know when the shutdown will end. He’s essential so he has to work. But if there’s a shutdown for 6 weeks, he still has to wait 6 weeks to get paid. When it’s 2-3 days, it’s not a big deal. But you can’t plan for it being 2-3 days.

Yeah I guess when your message is “Illegal immigrants are streaming across the border and doing crimes” - it gives room for the immigrants who aren’t doing crimes to think you’re not talking about them. Meanwhile some terrified person in Nebraska just hears “all the illegal immigrants are committing crimes”.

1 Like

I’m sure hating on a group of people who had no choice but to be born in an 18 year age range will cultivate some votes.

1 Like

Yeah if I ever worked for the feds my first act woukd be to squirel away 3-6 months of expenses

1 Like

Black and Hispanic voters have always been the most religious part of the Democratic coalition and poll far to the right of white democrats on issues like abortion and trans rights. So the takeaway from that tweet would probably ask if running a campaign singularly focused on the issue of abortion could have possibly alienated the minority/religious part of the Democratic base. I have no way to know if it did or not but it would explain why we did better with women this go around and worse with black/hispanic voters.

1 Like

That’s all possible.

I heard one analyst suggest that abortion laws being on the ballot in states had some element where it backfired. There are women who would have voted against Trump even though they supported him on most things because of abortion, but they didn’t because they didn’t have to now that there is or is going to be a state law protecting abortion rights.

1 Like