Democrats didn’t offer ponies like healthcare. Stupid voters
While it’s true that Trump is going to get a pretty similar number of votes, there were definitely some shifts that took place under the surface.
This is my take as well.
All the pundits and half this forum are trying to figure out what messaging would have worked or which candidate would have been able to win and I think its way more simple than that -
Do you feel like you can buy as much shit now as you could before? That’s it. That’s really the answer. Yes, there’s some amount of the electorate that is going to vote for Trump no matter the state of the economy, but trying to explain to people that America is in a much better economic shape than the rest of the world doesn’t resonate when people feel like they can’t buy as much stuff as they could before. I think all presidential elections really boil down to this. 70% of the electorate are level 1 thinkers that don’t understand nuance, so it really just boils down to “Do I feel like I can buy more shit now than I could before”.
If strawberries are $10 and eggs are $6 because Trump has tariffed everything and all the exploited immigrant labor is gone, then dems can likely win in 2026 and 2028, regardless of the racist and idiotic electorate.
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After she brought Haitians in to eat their cats, what did you expect?
No. Not for that specific issue.
Well I should say I’m surprised it was so high.
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Lol. Lmao
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Or to put this in four words:
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Shawn Fein 2028
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Ok, but people in aggregate can buy more stuff now than in 2019. I get that they don’t “feel” like they can, and that 6 months after Trump is in office they will once again feel like they can.
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It’s easier to call for leniency when you don’t live where drug addicts nod off on your front step and commit petty crimes to pay for it. If you do live in those neighborhoods, which are always working class and often Latino, I can see where you might get fed up.
I’m as left as they come on immigration, because I see good people who want to come here and work. I’m not as left on infantilizing drug addicts like they have no agency whatsoever. I’m all for giving them a helping hand, but there has to be an incentive to get out, otherwise you’re just enabling them.
Just put yourself in the shoes of some working class immigrant who busted their ass to get here and now is working two jobs and has to climb over fentanyl addicts to get off the subway on their way home. How is that person going to relate to some liberal in Santa Monica telling them that the solution is just just give the addict more money, clean drugs, paraphernalia, and a safe space to do drugs?
Bottom line is I have a lot more sympathy for the people who live in those neighborhoods and would like to take their kids to the park w/o danger and passed out people everywhere than I do for the addicts. Maybe that makes me a bad person.
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Ive had people crash out on my porch and now keep narcan handy. I think you’re wrong.
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He operates on a childlike level that’s comedically transparent to every one of us, but apparently works on over half the country. And he sticks with it. Never pivots. He has no shame. Doubles and triples down on everything dumb thing he says
Never apologize
Never back down
Lash out when confronted
Ironically, he’s found the one venue where pure BS and bombast work best. Politics!
Now the rest of us have to find a way to deal with what could be the next Hitler
He now has unfettered power to do whatever the fuck he wants with it. He can raid Fort Knox. Give nuclear codes to Russia. Assasinate a political rival. And he’s just the type to run with it
gg America
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I didn’t mean to be overly snarky.
There’s always a safehouse in lolArkansas if anyone needs one.
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Also too though, an individual’s wages don’t follow that graph. Plenty of people do have less purchasing power now than then.
My eyes rolled out of my head and now I can’t see anything
If your #1 issue is healthcare (apparently very few people this cycle) and you vote for Donald Trump and republicans, that is indeed stupid.
I absolutely agree that democrats should be offering more ponies. Both things can be true: (a) the electorate is full of uninformed, entitled, phone-addicts and (b) democrats need to do a much better job offering real solutions to them.
I’m not wrong about how working class people react to being told that nothing can be done to clean up their neighborhoods and more of their tax money should go to just giving addicts money and safe spaces to do drugs.
Yeah this seems likely. Until we go through a real hardship like a major recession or a war. Then people will remember “oh yeah, things actually could have been a lot worse when we were voting the bums out every four years”.
My delusions tell me that off grid locations would be perfect for this. Even if they aren’t a great counter in the way you speak of, they could function for history preservation (data collection), food production etc…
Think the Human Project (Children of Men) or the Maroons.
FWIW I think the border crisis, which is 100% made up bullshit, was probably a much bigger issue with swing voters than the fentanyl crisis.