Problem is it is tough to compare how many millions sat it out because of Kamala procedural beef, and how many would have sat it out because Biden was a withered old man so stricken with dementia that he couldn’t even speak. Probably fucked either way tbh.
Trump will be in prison so Vance will be the face of everything
Lol
I smoked two cigarettes last night (ok 5 AM Pacific) before throwing the pack away, and my brain is trying to trick me into feeling like this is as tough as quitting smoking after years of pack a day
2016 was obviously more shocking, but there was hope that the demographics was in our favor. The thought was that it’s all old white people fault. We couldn’t wait for those boomers to die and everything will be solved.
Since my racist country is the opposite and younger people were trending much more right-wing and authoritarian, i found that aspect at least a bit comforting.
The demographics in these elections are way more terrifying in this regard.
Anyone remember 2020 when Sanders went on Rogan and tweeted an endorsement from him and everyone got big mad at him for associating with a bigot? Good times.
I’m also way more scared of PayPal Mafia assholes running the government than Steve Bannon.
I also was convinced it was all the racist boomers that shipped it in for Trump in 2016. My viewpoint now is much more nihilistic
The more I think about this situation, the more disastrous it seems. It’s already pretty apparent that no one is inclined to learn anything from this election. Once Trump starts doing awful stuff, that will snuff out any reflection that is happening and the Democrats will become the party of resistance. That will work for a bit, and Dems will make some gains in 2026, take back the House, and put some checks on Trump and the GOP.
But then, in 2028, it’s the ultimate Etch-a-Sketch moment, and Trump steps aside (or he doesn’t, which is a different kind of disaster). The whole raison d’etre of the resistance Dem becomes meaningless, all the GOP-leaning voters who held their nose and voted for the Dems head home, and the Democrats get shellacked even worse. Then, perhaps, the rebuilding can begin.
Hard right governance for the next decade is pretty much baked into the cake. The only thing to hope for is that it’s democratic hard-right governance rather than authoritarian.
Only a decade of hard right will be a huge victory.
He gets to put a couple of 40 year olds on SCOTUS who make alito look liberal, put a few hundred people on lower courts who are pure loyalists and maybe worst of all yet hardly being discussed is his plan to replace huge swaths of the civil service with unqualified sycophants. It was the civil service that did almost all the resistance in his first term.
This election will create a massive rightward shift for a generation, not a decade.
And this doesn’t even account for the real possibility of him simply instituting a true dictatorship by eliminating real elections. The next election is very much drawing live to a Russian style “election”.
This is blowing my mind.
I thought (and still think) that reproductive rights would be the friendliest issue for Dems, the one they should hammer over and over again. And I believe they actually executed on that (or at least tried to).
But last night I saw a stat on TV that I absolutely couldn’t believe:
The response to “Who do you trust more on abortion” was 45% Trump. That is incomprehensible to me. Maybe it’s a sign of campaign incompetence, but I don’t think that fully explains it. Edit: here’s a cite.:
- 49% of voters nationwide said they trusted Harris more to handle the issue of abortion. 45% said they trusted Trump more.
So if abortion is your number 1 issue, you’re still voting Republican 25% of the time? I understand that a big chunk of that block is “abortion is the most important issue to me because I think abortion is murder”, so whatever. But I can’t stop wondering, “How many pro-choice people believe abortion rights are incredibly important AND think that Trump/Republicans are more likely to protect them?”
I would have thought that number was ~zero (other than that dingdong girl in the video posted earlier), but it’s obviously much larger than that.
Also, fully a third of voters think “the state of democracy” is the most important issue and almost 1/5 of them vote for Trump? WTF are we doing.
I’m going to try my hardest to stay offline and not think about any of this shit for a while.
How’d that election pan out for Sanders?
As it turns out, raising an entire generation on streaming content from Russian-funded pedophiles and Neo-Nazis was not great for their development.
dumb question, but if the most important thing to someone is making abortion illegal, wouldn’t they still say it’s the most important thing?
Yeah I thought 2024 was going to mimic 2022 as far as abortion rights being on ballots getting people out to vote and they would vote D.
Was it bad messaging on the Dems part? Are they considered more “radical”?
Thinking back I don’t remember Kamala having a plan or vision for what those rights should look like. It was just trump is evil and took away your rights (should have been enough anyways).
Yes. That’s what I was referring to in my “whatever” comment.
Ultimately we missed the real reason that Trump won, and its that we did not have a banger song like this
This really is it. Until something (and solutions are yet unimaginable) can be done about every single one of us living in our very own AI-manipulated positive-feedback information bubble, the rest is just window dressing. Democracy is fucked.
I’ve said it before, but I’m so very thankful that my teenage son has understood how awful the Andrew Tates and Adin Rosses of the world are. I’m sure he gets his mind poisoned in other ways, but at least he stays away from that shit.