NY 14 AOC R
2020 71.6 27.4
2022 70.6 27.3
2024 68.9 31.1
That’s a 7 pt swing
Queens county
2024 68 32
2020 72 27
9 pt swing
Bronx
2024 72 27
2020 83 16
14 pt swing
Her district straddles these two counties.
So has she lost votes? yes
Did she lose as many votes as Harris lost? Maybe/maybe not (it’s not an exactly like for like though with county and district data).
Finally a sign that Dems are getting on board with modern political messaging.
Even I got the vaxx, even though almost all in my “inner circle” are anti-vaxx.
I know you are kidding but this is sooooooooooo bad. Everything points to this be a massive turnout totally legit election. Voter suppression and corruption were non issues.
If the left starts playing MAGA we really are totally and completely fucked.
People won’t care what he does as long as it doesn’t personally affect them.
But one thing about Trump that I worry about is how alarmingly inept he is at handling catastrophic events. He’s not even capable of putting the right people in the right position for your most basic of problems. He had Betsy DeVos in charge of Education, Rick Perry in charge of nuclear energy, etc. Say we have another 3 Mile Island incident. WTF is Rick Perry going to do? God forbid the Cascadia Fault ruptures or if Los Angeles has a 9.0 earthquake.
It wasn’t massive turnout, though. That’s the thing.
Trump is going to get about the same number of votes he did in 2020. Dems just didn’t show up.
2020 was record turnout.
Anyway, its not suppression or corruption that won it. It was alignment with what the people wanted.
We are going to yearn for the likes of Davos.
This time is will be 100% incompetent and corrupt loyalists only.
If you want to see the future do some reading on Poland in the last decade after their right wing party won it all. It’s nightmare fuel.
I am indeed joking that it’s good but then again my idea of what is “good” and not in a political strategy sense has basically been obliterated in the last 24 hours. But I don’t think the left will ever have 10% the amount of conspiracy BS as the right.
The scary thing here is that conspiracy theories on the right are probably about to get worse. When Trump is out of power, the conspiracies just serve to stoke hatred of Dems and authority (like all the FEMA BS).
But when Trump is in power, conspiracy theories have a much more important role: explaining away any failures and setbacks. Trump 1.0 was the origin of QAnon and 5G/the complete suite of Covid conspiracy theories. Who knows what crazy shit they’re about to come up with.
Voter suppression is real, continue to ignore it at your own peril
Georgia had record turnout in terms of raw vote. Not sure about %.
Agree completely. Most people’s world view doesn’t extend any farther than the end of their street. The price of milk and eggs is up. Must be Biden’s fault. Let’s elect Trump again. They can’t remember what he did wrong, but remember gas was less than $2 per gallon at a time when everyone was cowering in their houses. And he indiscriminately passed out free money when everybody lost their jobs or business slowed to a crawl. Lots of level one thinkers out there. But even those who kept their jobs got the handouts too.
Will it work in reverse when shit hits the fan and Trump’s only answer is to whine. Or does he do something really nuts in retaliation for something real or exaggerated? 2028, if we survive til then, will be interesting. Do Dems find someone with a personality and our own cult following? Do Republicans succeed in rigging election even though many will have legit huge grievances against them by then? Does another charismatic Trump-like character emerge, or is the Republican race (if there is one) filled with Trump wannabes, leaving a huge lane for a RINO with a persona? We got nothing but time to see what happens.
I’d like to see a future Maxwell Frost/AOC ticket, but I don’t think this country is ready for it.
I’m rooting hard for a Vance presidency. I bet that dude would be centrist. He has no real beliefs. If Trump was gone he would go back to being the milquetoast moron of the hillbilly elegy.
I’m kind of thinking the same thing. But he could also be the kind who wants to start a nuclear war to fuel his ego.
Unlike Trump, Vance is a true believer in restricting abortion so would have to dodge that.
I remember not that long ago people here and on SPE were talking about how the Dems had this huge deep bench and were set for the forseeable future. I think I maybe posted once that I thought the Dems had a very thin/bad bench but mostly didn’t post to not ruin the vibes.
In fact I think the whole vibes campaign was really just a way to ignore reality and dissuade people from being critical of the obvious flaws. And it worked to an extent. But it didn’t work at all in the actual election.
And the Dems have done this to varying degees for the last 3 cycles. Hillary fainting and being dragged off in a van was nothing and if you suggest otherwise you are a conspiracy theorist. Joe Biden with the LOL stutter that was obviously early dementia. Even having ghouls like Bill Clinton give primetime speeches at the convention this year when he almost certainly was raping kids on epstein island.
The Dems aren’t living in reality. They want things to be one way but they are the other way. And most of the post-mortems I have read today (besides Bernie’s) totally miss the point.
The current iteration of the Dems appeal to no one and don’t serve the interests of a meaningful portion of the electorate. And look they know it. Which is why they have just run on orange man bad over and over.
We thought people were sick of Trump. But what we are really sick of is soulless EDem ghouls lecturing us about things like morality when they are all a bunch of cowardly hypocrites.
What do you think would have happened had Hillary won? I somehow think it would not have prevented this. He would have ran and beat her or someone at some point. People point back to 2020 being the start of this but I’d now go back to 2015, or whatever moment the republican establishment caved to him and dems didnt push back because they thought he was a joke. I mean, I did too. everyone did.
