Can you give an example of what you’ve seen as accelerationism? I’m just curious. Seems like 12 years of pissing in the wind to me but I’m not boots on ground in American society.
It has to be a bill where there is no watered-down compromise that has a chance of passing with Republican votes. In terms of the configuration of factions, it is the ideal bill. If not abortion, than something that similarly has no chance of anything passing without progressive votes.
Choosing to attack the human rights of poor women is not the solution. It is also trivially easy for centrist Dems and the corporate media to eviscerate progressives for this tactic since they’d actually be right on the merits on this specific bill.
The bill to do this on, IMHO, was the infrastructure bill.
Guns and abortion are two big ones, imo. Average person is briefly horrified by big events then quickly adapts to the new reality, as humans tend to do.
Accelerationism is dumb. Humans will just adapt to continuously worse conditions and if things completely break down then they will start killing each other for scare resources.
Yeah, the ‘ah well, nevertheless’ majority (probably?) are a huge cross against accelerationism succeeding in the USA. This might apply similarly to other Western Countries as well, in Australia we had an horrific massacre in the 90s and basically banned all guns since then but who knows what would happen today. I’m sure Americans were a lot more horrified at mass shootings in the 90s than today. It’s all immensely depressing.
But this is basically what happened in the political right in USA? Like you have all of these reactionary racists who were voting for the interests of rich people but they’ve basically managed to take over chunks of the party and primary the corporate Republicans with crazy racist Republicans. Why couldn’t it happen on the left?
Progressives don’t control AM radio or have a Fox News/OAN/Newsmax. People like Hannity and Tucker (and Trump) have essentially taken over the party through the media.
But they are good on Twitter, podcasts, and other online mediums. Why can’t they work the fear and rage cycle amongst their own?
I think it also takes time. The end game we are getting to now with the right wing being controlled by these nutjobs took decades of rotting people’s brains through these outlets. Podcasting and political tweeting has only been a thing for a few years. Being completely cut out of the mainstream media and actively worked against by it is a big problem. You average Boomer Dem watches some CNN which is never going to change any of their ways of thinking. They aren’t on twitter and don’t listen to podcasts. You need to left wing brain worm the so called “reasonable” part of the Dem party for a long period of time like AM radio and fox did and slowly turn the more moderate parts of your party into more extreme ways of thinking.
Think about the 2016 primary. Even at that point many on the right were assuming Trumpism wasn’t going to win the day and were advocating against it. It took a lot of work and a perfect storm to really push it over the top.
EDems have the option of voting for a theoretical Republican infrastructure bill. The right bill to take hostage is one where progressives agree on the merits of the bill but have leverage because there’s no chance of an acceptable Republican alternative.
Also left leaning people are just way more pragmatic, which works against them. These right wing nut jobs don’t vote strategically in primaries, they are totally emotion driven. Democrats buy into the BS fed to them by our lol media that they HAVE to vote for the corporate whore candidate or else!
This isn’t really true I don’t think. Deplorables are so worked up about whatever red meat issue drives them that they are VERY pragmatic about horse trading. You’ve got your evangelical Christians happily lining up behind Donnie Dumb Dumb with the Nazis and the people that want tax cuts. They are VERY pragmatic about agreeing to consolidate their voting power and the tax cut guy is fine with oppressing women to get his tax cut, and the evangelical is fine with cops murdering black people so they can shame pregnant women and ban abortions, and the Nazi is fine with tax cuts and huge deficits as long as they get to punch down at black people. Their pact is the very essence of pragmatism.
Fun Fact: There have been 7 midterms in the past 100 years where the party in power lost more than 40 seats. Of those 7, 5 were the democrats losing.
Most surprising thing about that fact is it wasn’t all 7!
I used to be a huge proponent of always showing up and voting for the lesser of two evils, but given how hard it is to knock off eDems in primaries, I think there are situations where taking a 2-year or 6-year loss to have an opportunity to contest an open primary may be better than 2 or 6 years of the lesser of two evils.
Their main strategy was showing up in primaries, and refusing to support the likes of Jeff Flake, etc.
That’s basically what we got, anyway.
Unlimited wanking motion
https://twitter.com/AdamParkhomenko/status/1584689769392455680?t=24s4ozivKq8LTxSp18P9Ig&s=19
It’s hard to get on board when the greater of two evils is Trump or worse. It’s probably more effective to see if you can harass them in their personal lives so that they decide retirement or resignation is preferable.
Man I might have to admit I was wrong about Desantis. He really sucks at debating, just zero juice.