Walrus Grab Bag 3 Sign Up—GOAT Music Thing Returns

So yeah, I grew up with former hippies as parents. Even went to an “alternative” elementary school. Music class meant sitting around singing If I had a Hammer. I actually really like what you might consider “traditional” popular folk music. Arlo Guthrie, Peter, Paul and Mary, Pete Seeger, Joni Mitchell, James Taylor, etc.

But somewhere around the '90s, “folk” music took a turn and now all that you hear is the stuff that I panned in my last walrus. I’m sure there’s good newer stuff out there in the Arlo Guthrie vein, but I’ve yet to hear it.

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Whiney sad-boy folk is pretty good if you are me :imp:

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Does anyone else feel this category is very restrictive? I have a couple of artists I can submit but it seems to exclude more than 99.9% of all songs.

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Whatever do you mean?

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There’s legitimately tons of options in this category. The trick is finding the good ones. I’ll be lenient on the more famous qualifier as long as there’s at least an argument they are as well known for something other than music.

a category of instruction to my cat

no biting

It’s not impossible. The thing that makes it difficult is no covers.

I think it’s okay for me to give this hint: think of people who tried to make it as a musician first, failed, and became famous for something else.

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Let me introduce you to a little ditty by a band called Sparks…

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I have a song i like for meb’s category, but i think you are basically picking from 20 or so artists that aren’t just novelty.

Ok I need a category it seems

Category Host Name: Nicholasp27

Category: stripped down songs (singer and maybe 1-2 instruments; no electronic stuff over it); mostly a good vocal song with instruments in the background, if anything.

Musical Tastes: Prefer good female voices in general but love tons of male artists. A male singer song that sounds like Hero of War from Rise Against or Snuff by Slipknot or Journeyman by Iron Maiden or lots of Aaron Lewis stuff is great; or anything by Serj from System of a Down. Hero of War won this category over a female song when I used it on another site.

Symphonic Metal, Alternative Rock, 80s/90s Rap+Eminem, 80s love songs and powerful female singers like Heart, lots of Classic Rock, and singer songwriters like Cat Stevens, Jason Mraz, Passenger and then stuff like Mumford and Of Monsters and Men and Lumineers.

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Only people I could think of for meb’s were criminals. I did think it was more a category you have to hunt for than know anything already, but one like that seemed acceptable given he seems to believe in it.

I’ll formalise all categories into one post and do admin later today.

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I’ve woken up this morning feeling more positive than I have in weeks so if it’s not too late I would like to sneak back in.

Category Host Name: swankywilder

Category: A song where you remember vividly where you first heard it. This can be something like the first song you ever really remember liking, a song that introduced you to a new style or an unfamiler artist or just a song that identifies an occasion or a moment in time. Feel free to interpret as liberally or as truthfully as you like

Musical Tastes: Pop, Reggae, Hiphop, dance, new wave, post punk, pre punk, only things i don;t really go for are Jazz and Metal, and I am willing to be convinced on those

If its too late to enter or the category is a bit crap then not a problem at all, happy to rail

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Before Swanky has time to change his mind again I’m calling it. We are 13.

This is the OFFICIAL CATEGORIES POST

It would behoove you to read through the thread as there’s a few more tidbits from some submitters, but these are the main points. (If anyone thinks I’ve left off anything UTTERLY CRUCIAL then shout.)

Category host name: Pauwl
Category: Old Music (to be kind to millennials, I’ll set it to older than 1990).
Musical tastes: I don’t like 80’s hair metal or hard rock. I like new wave, no wave, dark wave, proto-punk and other weird 70’s/80’s music. Older than that is wide open genre wise. Psychedelic, folk, soul, country blues, ragtime, gospel. Even old school country.
Any other judging notes: Overly familiar songs will be downgraded in ranking. Don’t enter hits by Zeppelin or classic rock standards. Try to pick a song that it’s unlikely I’ve heard a lot. Older is better. Musical tastes were not in order of preference, just listing genres from the 80’s on backwards.

Category host name: meb
Category: A song performed by someone who is more famous for something other than their music
Musical tastes: Likes: BANGERS, Pop Music, Indie Rock, Folk Rock, EDM
Dislikes: Country music, Radiohead, Songs with no lyrics
Any other judging notes: Must be an original song to that performer (no covers), anything from a musical live, animated, or filmed is ineligible, and if I have to put in deep research to figure out why the performer is famous your entry will be downgraded.

Category host name: NotBruceZ
Category: A cover of a song originally by the Beatles or originally by one of their members solo or a cover by the Beatles or one of their members solo of a song not originally by the Beatles
Musical tastes: Very eclectic. See the Unstuck playlist thread. The major sub-genres I am least likely to listen to are probably metal and hardcore/gangster rap.
Any other judging notes: LOL if you pick a cover of a song that the Beatles recorded but was not originally by them

Category host name: smrk4
Category: A song about a historical event. Allowing a fair bit of latitude about what counts as a historical event i.e. it doesn’t have to be like a jazz flute sonata about the Treaty of Westphalia. Please identify the historical event in your submission; if you have a history take to go with it that’s encouraged but not at all required.
Musical tastes: I like metal (but not the screamy stuff), most rock, some blues, some pop. Also into a lot of new-age electronic stuff, but not dance music per se. Neutral on punk and hip hop. Country is generally a no go, although with this category I can’t rule it out. I don’t like huddle around the campfire folky stuff, sorry.
Any other judging notes: I will try to be open to submissions I don’t necessarily love but that have musical merit (as I understand it). Won’t be too harsh on popular songs if the historical connection is good, but stay away from lol obvious choices as I already have a few songs in mind that are going to be instant nodiums.

Category host name: seities
Category: To fit the current moment, give me a song that in some way references, or evokes feelings of “change”. The song itself can change, the lyrics can discuss change, the artist or song can have the word change in the title, etc. If you are still stuck after that go for anything that references seasons.
Musical tastes: I think I am leaning a bit more towards Rock/Pop/Rap/Metal at this moment in time, but I do have a pretty eclectic playlist in general. I’d avoid anything slow or soft.
Any other judging notes: If it’s overly familiar, there will be a penalty. Don’t submit Tupac - Changes or John Mayer - Waiting on the world to change. Try and keep it under 8 minutes.

Category Host Name: CanadaMatt3004
Category: Song with the best use of the word “Fuck.” I think we have all been there. A song is either really racing along or not hooking us just the right way, and then the word fuck is uttered, sung, screamed or shouted and its just perfect. Thats what Im looking for. The word elevating the song in some way.
Musical Tastes: Generally 90’s-current rock or metal, though I appreciate my share of hip hop and r&B. Country is generally against my tastes but I do appreciate the right kind of country song, and in this category Im curious how it would shake out. Similar for other more mellow types of musical styles/genres.

Category host name: Yuv
Category: Crime. A song about crime, criminals, police, law, etc.
Musical tastes: Learned my lesson - NO symphonic metal. No MRI machines. I will not be able to appreciate if the instruments are tuned in a specific way that is aligned with icelandic humpback whales.

Category host name: pyatnitski
Category: Long songs / pieces. Don’t mind how you interpret it. E.g. A long pop song might be 4 minutes, but that’s pretty short for a jazz workout. But, you people do you.
Musical tastes: Folk, jazz, instrumental rock, doom, noise, bleeps/bloops, ‘world’. I’ll give anything a listen once. I used to listen to loads of weirder indie stuff, but hardly ever do now. I love some classic rock/metal/pop, but am very ignorant about lots of that thanks to a youth spent as a music snob. I really hate popular indie rock, so probably best to avoid triggering me there.
Any other judging notes: I’d like to say no hard length limit and use your noggin, but someone (NBZ) will probably send me a four hour piece because they can. So, I will set the limit at 23m23s. You have been warned! Also if I know something I’ll probably undervalue it, that’s inevitable.

Category host name: eyebooger
Category: Grab bag of a grab bag. Give me a song that fits any two of the following criteria (your choice):

  • Has the majority of lyrics in a Romance language that isn’t Spanish
  • Was released in 2018 or later
  • Is from a group with at least 2 female members
  • Has a number in the title
  • Is between 3:50 and 4:10 in length

Musical tastes: Modern rock of just about any type and catchy pop, though I can appreciate just about all kinds except country.
Any other judging notes: Don’t really want anything super-familiar. I’ve judged two categories on here so far. One of them recently won the giant walrus bracket, and the other made the quarterfinals. So something that appeals to the masses will probably appeal to me.

Category Host Name: swankywilder
Category: A song where you remember vividly where you first heard it. This can be something like the first song you ever really remember liking, a song that introduced you to a new style or an unfamiler artist or just a song that identifies an occasion or a moment in time. Feel free to interpret as liberally or as truthfully as you like
Musical Tastes: Pop, Reggae, Hiphop, dance, new wave, post punk, pre punk, only things i don;t really go for are Jazz and Metal, and I am willing to be convinced on those

Category Host Name: Nicholasp27
Category: stripped down songs (singer and maybe 1-2 instruments; no electronic stuff over it); mostly a good vocal song with instruments in the background, if anything.
Musical Tastes: Prefer good female voices in general but love tons of male artists. A male singer song that sounds like Hero of War from Rise Against or Snuff by Slipknot or Journeyman by Iron Maiden or lots of Aaron Lewis stuff is great; or anything by Serj from System of a Down. Hero of War won this category over a female song when I used it on another site.
Symphonic Metal, Alternative Rock, 80s/90s Rap+Eminem, 80s love songs and powerful female singers like Heart, lots of Classic Rock, and singer songwriters like Cat Stevens, Jason Mraz, Passenger and then stuff like Mumford and Of Monsters and Men and Lumineers.

Category host name: Louis Cyphre
Category: Broaden my horizon. Introduce me to artists I don’t know, new genres or subgenres, basically anything that is new/unfamiliar in some fashion. So stay away from what we typically get in the charts or hear on the radio. If I can immediately think of dozens of songs just like it this will probably negatively affect your ranking. No need to go overboard: The song will be judged by how much I like it, not by how obscure or exotic it is.
Musical tastes: I mainly listen to rock and metal (from vanilla to extreme) and their siblings, cousins and bastards. I also listen to pop, hip-hop, some classic, a tiny bit of opera and I can generally find something I like in most genres.
Basically no-hoper genres: hardcore techno/gabber, Operetta
Dubious genres: Electronic (although some electronic music did well in the previous categories I judged), Jazz, country/western, disco, RNB, Soul
I listen to a lot of stuff, so just about everything else is in with a shot.
Any other judging notes:There are two rules that if broken will lead to a low score.

  • The song should not annoy me.
  • The song should not bore me.

Warning: This time I will judge very well-known songs much more harshly.

Category host name: Skydiver8
Category: A song with lyrics so poetic, you wouldn’t be laughed off stage at your local poetry slam if you just read them with no music.
Musical tastes: No mumble rap. No screamy metal. Honestly, I spend most of the time listening to those songs wondering about the long-term damage the poor “singer” is doing to their voice. Anything that might chart on a current country top 100 is not my jam, either. Finally, as we learned last time, weepy college coffee shop open mic “folk” music is definitely not for me, either. Basically anything else is fine.
Any other judging notes: If the lyrics are unintelligible, I’ll probably downvote it (hence the no mumble rap or screamy metal caveats above). Though I do like him, Bob Dylan would probably not score as highly, just because it would make me think you copped out. If it’s literally a poem that someone set to music, that’s fine. Folk is in quotes above because I don’t consider traditional folk like Peter, Paul, and Mary or Arlo Guthrie to be in the same league as this new coffee shop stuff.
Poetry, like any art form, is highly subjective, of course, but let’s be honest, some songs have song lyrics, and some are poetry set to music, and I suspect y’all know the difference. So let’s do it.

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ADMIN FOR SUBMISSIONS

Deadline: Mon 1st Feb.

  • You can have all that day in whichever godforsaken timezone you’re in.
  • If anyone thinks they need longer just say now. I’m sure we’re all eager to get listening so we’ll try not to drag it out, but Swanky will not be the only person under life BS pressure (I know I am too), so we’ve no need to set ourselves challenging deadlines.

Submisions to:

What you need to include for each category in your submission:

  • Category master
  • Artist and Title
  • Link to the song.
    • Youtube is the most universal
    • Some of us will use spotify, so if you think there’s a potential issue with finding the correct version then include that link too or explain any version issues

Any explanation or context is, in my experience, very welcome by pretty much everyone, but it’s not required.

When you send your PMs, can you put a blank line and 4 spaces before the youtube link, so it appears like so:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DLzxrzFCyOs

Seems to be the only way I can then easily copy & paste the link out.

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@seities
@eyebooger
@SwankyWilder
@skydiver8
@Pauwl
@anon29622970
@NotBrucez
@LouisCyphre
@smrk4
@Nicholasp27

Tagging to ensure you all see the kick off admin in these posts:

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@CanadaMatt3004
@Yuv

Tagging to ensure you all see the kick off admin in these posts:

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I am very pleased by this development.

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Categories I have questions on:

@CanadaMatt3004 can you expand on yours a bit or is this purposely wide open?

@SwankyWilder are you wanting us to include a story with the song we submit? Otherwise it feels like your category is just pick any song.

Ah! just saw this stuff. I will have answers and more in a bit

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