US Kills Soleimani in Airstrike

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It’s a lot more like the late 30s. Hint: we’re not the good guys this time.

Contra NYT’s reporting, WaPo reports that the Soleimani strike was not some oddball option presented to Trump, but was the result of a months-long effort by Pompeo to get him to do it.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/killing-of-soleimani-follows-long-push-from-pompeo-for-aggressive-action-against-iran-but-airstrike-brings-serious-risks/2020/01/05/092a8e00-2f7d-11ea-be79-83e793dbcaef_story.html?arc404=true

Pompeo had lost a similar high-stakes deliberation last summer when Trump declined to retaliate militarily against Iran after it downed a U.S. surveillance drone, an outcome that left Pompeo “morose,” according to one U.S. official. But recent changes to Trump’s national security team and the whims of a president anxious about being viewed as hesitant in the face of Iranian aggression created an opening for Pompeo to press for the kind of action he had been advocating.

The greenlighting of the airstrike near Baghdad airport represents a bureaucratic victory for Pompeo

Edit: Actually reading down further, the WaPo piece agrees with NYT that a number of officials were blindsided by Trump picking that option.

Trump’s decision to target Soleimani came as a surprise and a shock to some officials briefed on his decision, given the Pentagon’s long-standing concerns about escalation and the president’s aversion to using military force against Iran.

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“Taking out Soleimani would not have happened under [former secretary of defense Jim] Mattis,” said a senior administration official who argued that the Mattis Pentagon was risk-averse. “Mattis was opposed to all of this. It’s not a hit on Mattis, it’s just his predisposition. Milley and Esper are different. Now you’ve got a cohesive national security team and you’ve got a secretary of state and defense secretary who’ve known each other their whole adult lives.”

Reminder that Mattis’s nickname is “Mad Dog”.

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Also, WaPo just pissed me off to enough to make what I hope will be a permanent solution to their bullshit. I was unable to copy paste text from the article for some reason. So I installed UR Browser and disabled JavaScript in it. Works fine now. Will use that to read articles from now on.

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Countdown until Trump blames Pompeo via tweet for the decision to take out Soleimani? Aka - wasn’t my idea!

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I was thinking similar but I don’t think the Soleimani thing will go obviously wrong in a way that Trump cares about. They love it on Fox.

Especially in the summer.

On their phone app you can select text like normal and there’s a button at the top within the app to copy to clipboard

https://twitter.com/Women4UBI/status/1213957249242030080

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Click through for video.

https://twitter.com/thekarami/status/1213854757736960000

Got to admit it is pretty amazing and absolutely the right strategy for them to take.

EZ game: all the US has to do now is assassinate Esmail Qaani.

This is why you don’t whack brass until you’re in a full blown war… because there’s always a next man up and at most it buys you a several hour disruption while they straighten out their chain of command. Almost no impact at all on the ground.

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Only out of sheerest of curiosity, is this offer open to Americans too?

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https://twitter.com/aliarouzi/status/1214087812103974913?s=19

The problem with this is, the military gets the commitment in the front end, before the debt is accumulated, so wiping out existing debt wouldn’t have the effect they say.

@BestOf

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Hopefully the Iranians strategy is to hack and release embarrassing trump related stuff about this administrations lack of security concerns and shows the utter chaos of these charletons in the US GOV.

I fear if any US base is hit or attempts that hell will be released on Iran…

Unfortunately the General was a hero to too many and I think random attacks are inevitable. Including UK/US targets abroad.

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Here you go, SA appealing for calm and against further escalation. On the one hand perhaps this is typical Israeli-style tactics, where it’s always the other side who have to not do things and show restraint or else be branded terrorists, but I don’t think so, I don’t think SA wants war and I don’t think they thought this was particularly sensible. It doesn’t weaken Iran particularly - which is always their goal - it just increases the chances SA get involved in a conflict that can hurt them. The more I read about this the more I think the US is just off the reservation, no one thinks they’re up to anything useful, not even Crown Prince Bone Saw and his lackeys.

“We are very keen that the situation in the region doesn’t escalate any further. It’s certainly a very dangerous moment and we have to be conscious of the risks and dangers not just to the region but to wider global security,”

“We hope that all actors take all the steps necessary to prevent any further escalation and any provocation,” he said.

Sorry, I don’t want to come across all naive, I should say no other country or ally thinks they’re up to anything useful.