Ukraine, Russia, and the West

CaffeineNeeded · February 27, 2022, 9:25pm

so you definitively know that it’s not a ramp up of intervention, despite nato and eu involvement being basically a straight line up and multiple other red lines like swift, military equipment and etc?

jlawok churchill.

suzzer99 · February 27, 2022, 9:26pm

Even right now the African refugees in Ukraine are being treated terribly.

Churchill · February 27, 2022, 9:27pm

Supplying jets is supplying Militarily equipment, which the UK, US and almost every Euro country has done since the beginning of the conflict.

We’re not supplying the guys shooting the guns, flying the planes or driving the tanks. So no, it’s not a step up.

jlawok caffeine

Habsfan09 · February 27, 2022, 9:28pm

What good is giving fighter jets to them if they have no training in them. I assume they are mostly accustomed to old soviet jets.

LouisCyphre · February 27, 2022, 9:28pm

My guess is that former Eastern bloc countries still have some Migs or Sukhois.

Edit: Polish air force uses Mig-29 and Su-22

wheatrich · February 27, 2022, 9:29pm

https://twitter.com/cliffordlevy/status/1498025338391212033

this should’ve been said a few days ago but finally I guess

superuberbob · February 27, 2022, 9:29pm

I mean she’s right. Countries like Poland, CR, and Slovakia scream bloody murder over the idea of ME war refugees being granted asylum.

On top of the same race and similar cultural background, all 3 countries already have very large Ukrainian populations. As a matter of fact, Ukrainians are the largest immigration population in each of them.

So, the easy acceptance is not a surprise.

EDIT: Just noticed that Louis beat me to it. Dammit.

CaffeineNeeded · February 27, 2022, 9:29pm

churchill you clearly misread the previous post. supplying fighter jets is a clear increase in response. Stop.

VoteForSocialists · February 27, 2022, 9:30pm

first mil thread i see that’s cautiously giving the edge to UA

https://mobile.twitter.com/votevets/status/1498019056716173314

superuberbob · February 27, 2022, 9:33pm

I mean they’re kinda right. If you’re an unwanted presence in a country, then eventually you’ll leave. Might take a very long time, but it will happen at some point so long as reistance continues.

kre8tive · February 27, 2022, 9:33pm

https://twitter.com/AVindman/status/1498046970614599682?s=20&t=VNM1xaqbGPJK7QmgUuQJOA

Churchill · February 27, 2022, 9:36pm

In case you missed it, Turkey as supplied drones (military equipment) Rumour has it the EU will supply jets (also military equipment) - I guess the step up, if there is one, is a person needs to physically man a jet. Presumably a Ukrainian national as the EU ain’t flying the jets themselves.