Ukraine, Russia, and the West

Eh Norway is already part of NATO - and thank God for that. We’d make as juicy target with all of our natural resources and strategic geo position.

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LOL at that currency spread. how’s that economy doing vlad?

from who though

russia couldn’t get anything that far even if they could find it on a map

https://twitter.com/daveyalba/status/1497259375123066885

https://twitter.com/daveyalba/status/1497259973755219972

https://twitter.com/daveyalba/status/1497260952156258311

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Over or under $1T for Russian gdp in 2022. It was at 1.4T.

I’d take the under.

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Damn, cancel culture has really run amok. :roll_eyes:

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I think this sounds like deciding what is good for the West, and then hoping that it is also good for China and therefore they should do it. I agree that China has an interest in global trade, but they also have conflicting short term interests like wanting themselves to be able to bully smaller countries into accepting Chinese dominion, and the longer term interest of being the world’s sole super power. There’s a constant tension between them wanting to be involved in trade with other countries, but also very much benefiting from the diminishing influence of the US and to a lesser extent Western Europe.

China’s default is going to be to sit on the sidelines of these disputes and concede large concessions from all parties. Their interest in brokering peace to establish their international bona fides is kind of imaginary IMO. They don’t need to convince anyone of their power or influence. They can just bully other countries.

https://twitter.com/denisonbe/status/1497949825194725378?s=21

The big brains on my Facebook have it figured out

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Should have bought BTC rather than gold. Could at least sell that.

That’s bad, really bad

I thought mines weren’t used anymore in Western countries? Also, where is he taking it? Who’s mine? Why would the Russians plant mines considering they are more likely to trigger it? Why would Ukrainians plant mines on their own soil?

In or by?

I think only anti-personnel mines are banned.

Those stupid sexy Swedes are a ticking time bomb and can’t be trusted.

Natural gas makes up 25% of Germany’s total energy consumption, and the country relies on Russia for 55% of its gas supply.

The article also says the US delivered more LNG to Europe than Russia in January but I don’t know how sustainable tanking so much fuel will be in the longer term.

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Hope. Keep hoping. We have all been. For a long time.

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Yes. The mine in that tweet is an anti-tank mine. It has operating pressure somewhere in the range of 100-400kg.

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Yay, green LNG! :expressionless:

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Obviously very unlikely that Russia would try, even if we weren’t part of NATO - same as it’s unlikely with Finland or Sweden.

But in the post Ukraine invasion world, it’s not hard to imagine an aggressive Russia challenging the territorial integrity of a non-NATO Norway in numerous non-violent ways - which they’re already doing. Things like subs at the very edge/across the edge of our territory, fishing fleets fishing within our borders etc etc.

Can still happen if we’re part of NATO obviously, but probably less so and in less overt ways.

made the mistake of turning on NBC coverage. MTP chuck turdface ends the ukraine segment with “how much is that going to cost americans?”

:face_vomiting: :man_facepalming: :facepunch:

also his entire panel is still living in last week news, thinking that putin can still be appeased with a part of ukraine and no nato guarantees to refrain from nukes. and that ua can be supplied and trained by us to indefinitely contain him. uhhh, he hasn’t been watching the last 8 years?